After some minor discussion, and still not reading the last 20 pages of crap, going to repost this summary, slightly edited to be "less biased" with facts that were presented OUTSIDE of the 2 sanc vs ama threads.
- Sanc noticed MA.
- Sanc + MA went fort at some point.
- Fort was bugged and did not offer the -75% protection through double fort (instead, it offered 0 protection). As a result, Sanc got screwed when they undertrained and MA robbed them blind.
- MA asks Sanc to prove they have in game cf's with other abs allies and are not gc farming after calling out abs banks with tons of gc and 0 thieves (Hence, MA target shared abs banks).
- Havoc breaks cf with sanc to prove no inter-alliance farming was happening.
- Sanc steals a minimum (admitted) near 30 mil gc from Havoc.
- Sanc and Havoc re-cf.
- Couple of abs kds get taunts about their 0 thief banks with gazillions of gc.
- No in-game communication or IRC communication is made between Sanc and MA.
- Sanc makes a gripe about the 'abuse' of fort from MA in public forums and says they'd be willing to re-cf since they lost gobs of gc due to being under trained.
- MA says it's not their fault Sanc under trained.
- MA waves Sanc.
- Sanc declares war.
- MA defeats sanc in war.
- EoWCF ends.
- Havoc notices MA.
- Pew Pew notices Sanc.
- Sanc robs gc from MA.
- MA waves Sanc citing robberies and that Sanc still has a dragon against MA.
- Havoc+Sanc Claim MA is dodging Havoc.
- Neither Sanc nor MA contacted one another about CFing.
- Dragons and hits are exchanged between both kingdoms.
- Lots of complaints come up about MA not negotiating CF with Sanc.
- MA complains Sanc also never negotiated CF with MA.
- MA starts 'negotiation' with public offer of taking 20k acres from Sanc and a 1 week CF from Havoc, agreeing to war Havoc upon conclusion of 1 week cf (use of 'negotiation' means that MA made an offer that was obviously silly, but did still make an offer).
- Havoc reply offers to reset their 48h notice, citing MA target shared their 0 thief bank(s).
- No deal was reached nor was there much public discussion about any interaction herein.
- Sanc + MA hit fort.
- Sanc sends an in-game CF without terms.
- Sanc claims no hostility with MA (despite no resolve to the conflict).
- Havoc waves MA into their Hostile with Sanc, stating that the hostile is void (despite no resolve to the conflict).
- Pew Pew waves Sanc.
- Both Kingdoms are hereby double hostiled. Specifically noting this as it seems to be a point of contention.
- MA retals Havoc + declares.
- Sanc retals Pew Pew + declares.
- Relations between Sanc+MA are not currently clear between these two threads (again ignoring that I have not read the last 20 pages of spam).
The above 'facts' are what has been publicly presented taking both sides into account. Please feel free to review and question them if your side feels I have misspoken or forgotten 'facts'.
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I keep the above disclaimer and remind BOTH sides: I have no problem altering what is presented in this as long as requested to do such in a reasonable tone. Keep in mind I have had little to no discussion privately with either side (in fact, only have with abs players and not a single convo with any player from MA about any of this) and that the only information used above is viewable in PUBLIC threads. If you STILL feel this is "biased propaganda" then either:
a) Approach me in a reasonable manner.
b) re-read both threads and point out the mistakes I made with the publicly posted evidence.
c) Write your own summary
d) be dickish and get ignored.
I would also like to note that I personally WITHHELD facts from this that are NOT public. These are minor facts and they will not be presented, but it is a mere point to prove only publicly available information was made.
Originally Posted by alan03
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