Simians waving into an active hostile

[Anri]

Octobrev did 4 hits into our hostile vs HoH. Thats him alone.

He took 3.1k acres positive from us right into our hostile.

This does not account for the other hits/ops they done meanwhile we were fighting HoH.

Dharan then talks about Simians and its members with very bad words, this is ongoing for quite some time even after CF was made. I made the CF cause i tried in all ways to be nice to them.
But it comes a time when the line is drawn and a guy steps over it. You cant be coming and asking for CF all meanwhile he namecalls us all. He tried to start a flamebait in here as well and never stopped to talk **** on us on irc. He also abused his operator status to bann players that did not even talk in #tactics.

Now, several players in the KD was mad enough, cause we had all ready let go of relations when another KD choose to hostile them. I was being very level headed and gave a flat CF.
I said, we will not interfere in hostile. Thats more then correct. What i would not count on after being in the position to farm them and rightfully claimed relations to them first is that Dharan would keep running his mouth about us and our players.

All of a sudden Octobrev tells me to farm his province out in #tactics. Since he was the guy hitting us for 3.1k acres into HoH hostile i put up an order to take 3.1k acres back from him since he asked to get hit down. We proceeded.

What Pillz says about all ops and stuff is false, we were busy vs HoH and we did not cover any ops like that except for on 1 prov after conflict with HoH had ended. We mostly AWed that prov.
Relations was up between us and the ones hitting into relations from the start was the other KD.

They ask for this and then come here and whine. GG

[Anri]

7[050007:055607:055507] <09@octobrev>14 Net Defensive Points at Home 38,625
07[050007:055607:055707] <09%meep>14 it's just so he doesn't get mad
07[050007:055607:055907] <09@octobrev>14 go for gold
07[050007:055707:050207] <09%meep>14 when I learn his silly sageness
0607[050007:055707:055907] 03:02:04:05:06:07: CinexZz 09(07~CinexZz@uto-8405F721.cbj04-home.tm.net.my09) has 08joined09 #tactics
0407[050007:055807:055007] <09@octobrev>14 i hope youre not actually afk Anri|afk
07[050007:055907:050007] <09@octobrev>14 you could be bringing in some mad profits right now
0607[050107:050107:051407] 08?06?05?02?08 CinexZz 09(07~CinexZz@uto-8405F721.cbj04-home.tm.net.my09) has 07left IRC 09(07Ping timeout09)
0107[050107:050207:054407] 07<%Anri|afk>13 seems u busy
07[050107:050507:051707] <09@octobrev>14 moi?
0107[050107:050507:052907] 07<%Anri|afk>13 yea
07[050107:050507:054507] <09@octobrev>14 idk not really anymore
0607[050107:050607:053407] 03:02:04:05:06:07: wobb 09(07wobb@ADA9DB2A.97C943E8.2B41ABBD.IP09) has 08joined09 #tactics
07[050107:050607:054207] <09@octobrev>14 newayyyy
07[050107:050607:055407] <09@octobrev>14 this other kd will take everything when they notice
07[050107:050707:050507] <09@octobrev>14 your welcome to the first slice

7[050107:051007:055007] 07<%Anri|afk>13 ty
0107[050107:051007:055107] 07<%Anri|afk>13 ;-)
07[050107:051107:050007] <09@octobrev>14 <3
0107[050107:051107:055707] 07<%Anri|afk>13 faery vs faery
0107[050107:051207:050007] 07<%Anri|afk>13 1 gen power
07[050107:051207:051407] <09@octobrev>14 \:D/

No time to edit out my script atm.

EDIT: All but 1 hit has been on Octobrevs prov. This hit was nubbed up by Kob.

First hit:

7[052207:052107:052507] 07<~Anri|afk>13 take SN plz
07[052207:052107:054207] <09@kob>14 they hit me x2 while we were hostile with HOH anyway
07[052207:052107:055307] <09@kob>14 SN?
07[052207:052207:053907] 07<~Anri|afk>13 snatch news
07[052207:052307:051307] <09@kob>14 avian i hit has army out
07[052207:052507:051007] <09&CrazyMatt>14 ask permission before you hit
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07[052207:052607:052707] 03:02:04:05:06:07: Acrez 09(07~Acrez@uto-67153D06.pools.spcsdns.net09) has 08joined09 #simiandirectorate
07[052207:052607:052707] 10*11*08*09 ChanServ 10sets mode:08 +o Acrez
07[052207:052607:052807] 10*11*08*09 Anri|afk 10sets mode:08 +v Acrez
07[052207:052707:050207] <09@kob>14 i did ask...
07[052207:052707:050907] <09@kob>14 i said can we hit 1:6?
07[052207:052707:052007] 07<~Anri|afk>13 its the bots fault
07[052207:052707:052507] 07<~Anri|afk>13 cant put orders up
07[052207:052707:053907] <09&CrazyMatt>14 and te answer was no nead
07[052207:052707:054207] 07<~Anri|afk>13 and its not like we care to much
07[052207:052807:050807] 07<~Anri|afk>13 Dharan just publicaly flamed us on the forum and said chuck was a dickhead like 10 times in a 30 min convo
07[052207:052807:051907] 07<~Anri|afk>13 So they had a hit coming
07[052207:052807:052407] 07<~Anri|afk>13 and a wave if we feel like it
07[052207:052807:055507] <09@kob>14 oh, wave, i vote wave
07[052207:052907:050407] <09@kob>14 later all, back to work

After this Octobrev said he suicided. All hits are on him. No other prov.

[jamin]

Any evidence from the opposing team? Hate to say it...never thought I would, but so far I'm going to have to side with Anri on this...during the HoH hostile I saw these hits from dharan's kingdom and thought it was a low blow...didn't however see Simians making a thread whining about it. Unless evidence is presented otherwise this seems like fair payback.

[alan03]

i knew there was more to this than just "Simians waved into our active hostile"

[Anri]

Is it just me or is it not a bit bad that Dharan goes around and bann people from #tactics for his own personal interest?
He is banning people that dont speak, or people that speak civil cause he has his own vendettas.
I tought all could stay in #tactics. I think its more then me that has a problem with Dharan and how he runs things on irc and in here.
He has been very respectless towards us for ages now and been trolling the forum as good as it goes most of the times. While hiding behind moderator status or OP status on irc. Its a shame for the game that no better people can "represent" the game. Even i restrain myself both on irc and in here for the best of the game and i am not a moderator of the forum nor an OP in #tactics. I find it dispicable that Dharan gets to bann people he is fighting ingame. Both Palem and Bishop i am finding respectable both on irc and in here. Dharan has a hard time using his powers like he should for the best of this game. Its very counter-productive when new players join #tactics and a moderator cant stop talking about genitals of his enemies and bann people as he see fitt even if they dont speak a word. Irc is a free world. For example if Dharan had a KD channel he has all the right in the world to bann players and people. I see #tactics as a home for tactics where people from all of the server can meet up. I apparently was wrong, cause i got banned as well. Without saying a single bad word in there about anyone. I think #tactics should be run differently just like #recruiting. If someone goes over the top sure bann them. But in no way people should be banned from community channels ran by moderators of this forum just because they are in some fight ingame. If they want to talk diplomacy or anything they can do so in PM or if they can behave in kd channels. Up to the owners of the KD channels. If the game gonna change people can at least try to behave in #tactics and make use of the channel for what it is. Thats all.

I just liked to "whine" and express my feelings about this since his KD started a topic about mine after all.

[DHaran]

Good to see I get off work and 9 hours later we're still talking about how scummy Simians is proving themselves to be (again). I'm sorry, am I supposed to care about the opinions of dirty playing liars? My bad yo, here I was not giving a **** what you think. Now why would anyone listen to anything a liar like Anri has to say?

Side note, scumbag players aren't welcome in #tactics as long as I have op.

And to clarify, me and Chuck got into it because while I was having a civil conversation with Anri in PM about the hostile hits and getting a CF, Chuck was talking **** and gloating about hitting me. He doesn't deserve my respect, and I told him exactly what he was, which he didn't like. I don't like a lot of players in Utopia, but I still respect them ingame.. Anri mouths off about me all the time, but I would never consider hitting into a hostile as retaliation, because that's something a little kid would do. Simians is bottom of the barrel in this game, and this is why they have never and will never amount to anything.

[Anri]

Good to see I get off work and 9 hours later we're still talking about how scummy Simians is proving themselves to be (again). I'm sorry, am I supposed to care about the opinions of dirty playing liars? My bad yo, here I was not giving a **** what you think. Now why would anyone listen to anything a liar like Anri has to say?

Side note, scumbag players aren't welcome in #tactics as long as I have op.

This.... ty Dharan

[Elit]

#tactics is not KD pub channel for ban ppl you don't like.
Its pub channel for all community and ban for personal reasons is stupid.

[tzar]

Anri, you seem to be under the false impression that #tactics is in anyway an official part of the game. That everyone has a right to be there. And that for some reason the ops don't get to behave like ops in every irc channel, ever.

It's not a community channel. It's not accountable to any sort of standards, apart from those of Utonet. It's Bishop's. Entirely his. He can do what he wants with it. If the entire utopia community pisses him off, he can set the limit to 1, clear the channel, and redirect it so everyone joins #anrisucks instead if he feels like it. Dharan can do almost as much

There is no connection between it and the forums, the forums being where there is accountability. And standards. And all that stuff you want in your community channel for everyone. Hey, that's an idea, maybe you should start one. Or you could try #strategy instead

In fact, a smart person, rather than complaining about a person in a channel where said person has the ability to ban you, might've complained in #strategy to begin with. You're supposed to learn that in IRC101


You're just wrong about this. Give it up

[Anri]

Thats where i think you are wrong Tzar. Game mods and forum mods run the channel more or less.
If you cant see the connection between #tactics and #recruiting and how it helps this game its not my fault.
It takes someone like Bishop to run it and do it good. Operators that are not level headed should not be operators.
No matter if people like it or not they are community channels for this game.

[tzar]

But I'm not wrong. And so what if they do. There's still no correlation between irc and here.

Once again, you're just wrong about this. Give it up

[Elit]

It's Bishop's. Entirely his. He can do what he wants with it. If the entire utopia community pisses him off, he can set the limit to 1, clear the channel, and redirect it

Yes i agree. If Bishop set ban its mean ban. Rest ops is better to not kick/ban so easy. Its rude and power abuse.

[DHaran]

If I banned people I didn't like, it'd be a lonely channel. You don't see Proteus or Godly on the banlist do you? I decided to ban them for being lowdown lying players and I don't want to socialize with them, or let them socialize with other in #tactics who aren't lowdown liars. IRC is a social scene, nothing more. If someone wants to act poorly ingame, their influence is not something I want in a channel made for the benefit of good players.

Also to clarify, clueless Simians players keep saying we hit into their hostile, which is an idiotic and twisted version of what really happened. We RETALED hits on us by Simians FROM their hostile with HoH. Simians couldn't give a button to HoH so sent their armies out elsewhere from their 'vs HoH' tag, then wanted the right to cry when they got their fair retals. Learn to play. Their actions here were a blatant and unjust double after a CF was put in place with the statement by Anri that they would not interfere in our hostile. This is indisputable proof of the nature of Anri, Chuck and Simians. They are liars and nothing more.

July 18 of YR9 to KILL (simians) attacked and stole from thiefmage (thundercats).
July 19 of YR9 An unknown province from Simians KLA vs Heroes of abs (simians) invaded My Dog Has Stockholm Syndrome (thundercats) and captured 805 acres of land.
July 20 of YR9 until our dreams (simians) attacked and stole from nancyartaniss (thundercats)

Above was the first interaction with Simians, which they instigated from their own hostile. There is no possible way to argue against the reality of what actually happened. Papers and logs don't lie.

[Elit]

If I banned people I didn't like, it'd be a lonely channel. You don't see Proteus or Godly on the banlist do you? I decided to ban them for being lowdown lying players and I don't want to socialize with them, or let them socialize with other in #tactics who aren't lowdown liars. IRC is a social scene, nothing more. If someone wants to act poorly ingame, their influence is not something I want in a channel made for the benefit of good players.

I'm sure you have reason for making ban. Not arguing with you and current situation. Im against ban ppl at all. Only if they sabotage channel ban is must.

[tzar]

It's not an abuse of power to ban one person who by all accounts was being a bit of a cant.