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    Hey Strat, what do you think of using war hero on a m or t province?
    Something like halfer/war hero or fae/war hero
    With the loss of 2x dbe TD for rogue, they strike me as having a role in doing ns/riots runs that there is not really a counter to.

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    Hello kaseera.
    The halfer war hero you propose is mentioned in floggers Ultimate Strategy Thread, and you're estimates are correct. - This virtual kingdom is for game reflection. In other words, here I follow each personality and race from a straight archetype perspective. As you've discovered it's merit is in comparing alternative build leverage. ;-)
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    Hello kaseera.
    The halfer war hero you propose is mentioned in floggers Ultimate Strategy Thread, and you're estimates are correct. - This virtual kingdom is for game reflection. In other words, here I follow each personality and race from a straight archetype perspective. As you've discovered it's merit is in comparing alternative build leverage. ;-)
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    So far it's been a cleric dwarf and faery I've dipped my toe in thus far age 59. With a war under my belt as dwarf I have experimented with zero hospitals and only built GS in war. I find the combination fragile compared to undead which is no surprise. The free build is nice, but restrictive if you accelerate build like I do.
    - But why cleric? It's plain to see cleric is the pin many kingdoms swing on. My experience in the build may be cornered by where I've served, but my purpose is to see the worth of the games races in the cleric guise. Cleric is this game, by it's ratio, and by the builds I encounter are what I think is too much of a good thing. Commonly miscast as a do-all with little consideration for enemy fringe capability. I for one find great value in the warrior and tactician for the same reasons I find a guitar and a drum kit complimentary to a bass. The cleric is your bass btw. You can play songs and get rhythm, true. But you can't match the melodic freescape of the tactician or the impact of the warrior.
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    Now with a 4/4 record and the chance to observe some archetypical builds. The Orc war hero, though not used as a concentrated killer, still is formidable in his surroundings. Hybrid elf mystic hasn't fully used his capabilities but also has shown impressive growth. We've included a pair of undead I'm eager to observe. As expected, even in warrior guise the undead is sturdy.
    - All I've seen still reinforces the archetypical builds. There's not an avian tactician to be found or a tactician for that matter. Very underused. Intel is still a reluctant mistress I'm curious to see. Even in as solid a kingdom I reside, the tentative willingness to gather intel exists. Durability for a clearer view of battle? In this virtual kingdom that is 3 provinces out of 25. A thorough intel doctrine by tacticians followed by competent tpa provinces, in my mind, provides strategic leverage.
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    After some " real world " review I've finally concluded a personality switch I believe is in the best interest of the kingdom.
    Original lineup will be edited and commented.
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    Virtual Kingdom ~ Mirror of Truth
    1) {S} Aspen Autumn: avian war hero
    2) War Blimps: avian war hero
    3) StratOcastle: avian war hero
    4) Confectioners Toywerks: dwarf tactician
    5) Kettle-Clock Keep: dwarf tactician
    6) Fellsworns Regret: dwarf tactician
    7) Sylvan Phase Bridge: elf mystic
    8) Silver Girl Sails: elf mystic
    9) Unicorns Abandon: elf mystic
    10) Cosmic Sparkles College: faery sage
    11) Frosty Lane College: faery sage
    12) Twinkle Town College: faery sage
    13) Platinum Manor Associates: halfling rogue
    14) Punch & Judy Gang: halfling rogue
    15) Squiggle Blade Bandits: halfling rogue
    16) Frozen Spit Jewelers: human merchant
    17) Jerkstore: human merchant
    18) Toke'N'Trade Tobacconists: human merchant
    19) Mountain Fist Metropolis: Orc warrior
    20) Thunderpick Plaza: Orc warrior
    21) Two-Handed Sword Squad: Orc warrior
    22) Obsidian Sands Occult: undead cleric
    23) Spectre Tome Occult: undead cleric
    24) Star Glacier Occult: undead cleric
    25) {M} Amberstump Occult: faery cleric
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    The change was made to get better efficiency from tactician intelligence. In playing dwarf I've found it easier to run a higher elite count opening population to higher tpa. The avian gets perhaps a needed rest but enjoys faster training ergonomic to the Birthrate bonus. Additionally, avian now has this strength unfettered by dragon or plague.
    I may integrate personality and race to better suit each division. We shall see.
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    I want a province based on me in your kd swordy. An avian who gets chained nearly to death every war :-P
    Player History

    -Returned in Age 55: "Happy Grasslands" Undead Cleric in WE KC (M)
    -Age 56: "Cortez the Killer" Elf Mystic in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 1st Half: "KC March of the Penguins" Avian Warrior in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 2nd Half: "Granny Smith" Halfling Rogue in TFC
    -Age 58: "A Horse With No Name - America" Halfling Rogue in HRS Partial (S)
    -Age 59 1st Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in HRS
    -Age 59 2nd Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in AC
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    -Age 60 1st Half: "Beaver" Elf Mystic in AC (M)
    -Age 60 2nd Half: "I don t want" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 61: "trizzle my wizzle" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 62: "Tras19 is amazed by midgets" Dwarf Sage in Beastblood (CROWN x 2)
    -Age 63 yr 1-12: "To learn his Elfabet" Avian Merchant in Beastblood
    -Age 63 yr 12-14: "Thanks for the death Flogger" Orc Tactician in Beastblood
    -Age 64 yr 1-6: "Lust and Thrust" Halfling Rogue in PewPew
    -Age 65: "back yet again" Elf Merchant in Old Skool (M)
    -Return again in Age 67: "Whimsyton" Elf Merchant in the ghetto
    -Age 68 1st Half: "This Girl is on Shire" Halfling Rogue in The Shirish Mafia (M)
    -Return Yet Again in Age 76 2nd Half: "Happy Grasslands" Dark Elf Paladin in BOL
    -Age 77: "?" Human Sage in ? (M)


    Noteworthy Achievments

    *** Age 62: Books of War ... KD Land Crown and KD NW Crown Winner with Beastblood ***
    *** Was a member of The Faery Circle, yet have never played Faery ***
    *** Have never had a province die except once when I let Flogger province sit me for 24 hours in a war ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by tras19 View Post
    I want a province based on me in your kd swordy. An avian who gets chained nearly to death every war :-P
    Virtual Kingdom ~ Mirror of Truth
    1) Aspen Autumn: avian war hero
    2) War Blimps: avian war hero
    3) {S} Woodstock Phoenix: avian war hero - you gotta put the little birdie on your province banner ;-)

    * we take suggestion to that will be virtually considered *
    Last edited by StratOcastle; 19-11-2013 at 22:01.
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    Commentary on Teamwork: the darker side { - so we have actives who were chained and inactive eowp. They don't grow. The team hangs on to resources to help. Oow the team gets plundered, loses troops, must retrain. Inactive reappears to now grow slowly in hostile war pending circumstances.
    * the lesson is that no matter the value of your (in)actives, the whole is best served by taking care of the actual actives. This is no slight. RL happens, maybe chaining hurt ones will to continue, etc. - the inactive must respect the team and be left behind. The team must respect itself and do what's best for kingdom progress. If I'd seen this once I've seen it too many times. It's integral to morale to communicate this clearly to all who share in a kingdom. *
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    The next step is to extend the scope of the possible combinations. This is to make the kingdom more inviting to players who may have a particular grasp for certain aspects of a build. Again with 3 divisions of 8 provinces, the alignment is for simplicity not to dictate battle array. We will start with the archetypical to summarize :
    ~ division one ~
    1) avian tactician
    2) dwarf war hero
    3) elf mystic
    4) faery sage
    5) halfling rogue
    6) human merchant
    7) orc warrior
    8) undead cleric
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    ~ division two ~
    1) avian cleric
    2) dwarf warrior
    3) elf mystic
    4) faery merchant
    5) halfling rogue
    6) human sage
    7) orc war hero
    8) undead tactician
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    ~ division three ~
    1) avian war hero
    2) dwarf sage
    3) elf mystic
    4) faery tactician
    5) halfling rogue
    6) human cleric
    7) orc merchant
    8) undead warrior

    - Finally, it should be noted that these are not ideal to the cause unless we consider activity. The variations that are not optimum are more about the player, and we want players. Whereas I feel 3 orc warriors are vital I know some enjoy playing offset. So these are my twisted versions; the ones I've seen in Utopia.
    Last edited by StratOcastle; 22-11-2013 at 04:33.
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    Finally we have to assign that 25th province and designate monarch. For pure entertainment sake I'd go with faery warrior. For practicality I'd go faery war hero. Again, the spell book is a big influence.
    My take on dealing with enemies in hostile is a factor as well as in war. It occurs to me mystic is the most popular faery personality and no denying it certainly deserves a look. But I should clarify that we are not choosing these possibilities based in ideals of unbreakabilty. we're looking at a marchable faery that can exchange at the bottom if necessary.
    Spahrep has explained an approach to running merchant that offers a sound alternative to our built in prejudices of how a faery operates. I may have to consult the oracles based on how the 25th fits in this Virtual Kingdom.
    Last edited by StratOcastle; 22-11-2013 at 03:16.
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