Dealbreakers vs HoH

[SillyRabbit]

So FSM dealbroke into two war wins? yet supposedly there was incentive for rage to wd?

Odd...

Wrong. Rage broke deal when refuse to war. We broke CF with Rage.
Then HoH dealbroke FSM to come to Rage's aid.
At conclusion of FSM and Rage war, Rage only secured CF for Sanc.
FSM declare on HoH. Its fair game.

Nothing to see here.

[endub]

Wrong. Rage broke deal when refuse to war. We broke CF with Rage.
Then HoH dealbroke FSM to come to Rage's aid.
At conclusion of FSM and Rage war, Rage only secured CF for Sanc.
FSM declare on HoH. Its fair game.

Nothing to see here.

Wrong. If you submitted notice when you were able to, waited the 48 hours, and initiated the hostile, I'm sure they would have warred you. We'll never know because you dealbroke them before all of that could happen and despite the dealbreak, they warred you anyways! So much for the "Rage won't war us" excuse.

You might have a legitimate complaint if you did things the right way, but you didn't. You dealbroke someone based solely on their words and not their actions. You went back on your word. Not them.

[SillyRabbit]

You might have a legitimate complaint

No complaints here :)

[jamin]

Thread title...

[tak3shi]

Wrong. Rage broke deal when refuse to war. We broke CF with Rage.
Then HoH dealbroke FSM to come to Rage's aid.
At conclusion of FSM and Rage war, Rage only secured CF for Sanc.
FSM declare on HoH. Its fair game.

Nothing to see here.

We didn't deal break u, we specifically mentioned it was a NAP unless there's AWAR of there was some drama requiring alliance action. You deal broke and I asked you numerous times to return the acres to Rage almost 1 week in advance. Utopia is not only age long, your short term delusions will haunt you in the future.

I think it's perfectly clear in the logs i posted earlier.

Sat tak3shi wtf are u guys doing?
Sat tak3shi are u crazy?
Sat Cody sup
Sat tak3shi why did you pull that dealbreaking stun?
Sat mibbit Cody: No such nickname online. (Goes offline
Mon tak3shi dude
Mon Cody !
Mon tak3shi just give back the damn acres
Mon tak3shi they've already got more than 4-5kds ready to gb u
Mon tak3shi and all of them are forcing my hand in this and i like 1/2 the players in your kd
Mon tak3shi i dont want to hit them. So dont put them through this ****
Mon Cody what kd are u in this age tak3shi
Mon tak3shi HoH
Mon tak3shi i was asked to help them out because they had no leaders this age
Mon Cody the one that jamin came from?
Mon tak3shi yes
Mon tak3shi silva knows
Mon tak3shi he was from HoH last age
Mon Cody yeah
Mon Cody i know
Mon Cody okay. thanks for advice, but i am handling situation
Mon tak3shi I've been trying my best
Mon tak3shi to stay out of all drama this age
Mon Cody same
Mon tak3shi then why did you hit them without notice
Mon Cody this boat wont start rockin on its own. it wasnt just my call, me silva and a few other top players here all agreed on it.
Mon Cody if we get f*cked, we get f*cked. if not we just have fun with it
Mon tak3shi I already told silva early this age to stay out of drama, I dont want to break our NAP for any reason unless there's an awar or some **** like this.
Mon Cody i dont think any of us really realized how many would be affected by this. to us, this is just between us and rage
Mon Cody part of the nap was that after cf we would war. and when we discussed war with drixx and he advised that he would not war, or give acres as we agreed, we decided to take action right then and there. we would not have given rage a cf at all if we would not have gotten war. those banks would not have been able to grow unless they cfed us. drixx led us to believe they would war just to get the
Mon Cody cf, and then once the banks were up and cf coming close to an end, his position on war changed. yes there was an ingame CF as part of our NaP agreement, but drixx broke the "war" part of our agreement, and we felt we shouldnt honour the ingame cf if they wouldnt honour the war part. whether it was just some mindgames or tactics, i dont know. it was not heresay, it came from the monarch? himself
Mon tak3shi U can never break a cf \
Mon tak3shi terms on such vague arguments
Mon tak3shi this is a matter of communication
Mon tak3shi and a matter of how it was interpreted it isnt your black and white
Mon tak3shi besides you had no clause in the cf to say you can break a cf and even if u had it had to be a clear action
Mon tak3shi Just give back the acres and war them
Mon tak3shi u're about the same size
Mon tak3shi whats so difficult
Mon Cody yes, i realize how many are upset. you are not first person to talk to me about this. we also have our own way of doing things. and we will try to adapt to the way things are currently done. that is being discussed right now
Mon tak3shi then 4-5 kds wont have to come in
Mon tak3shi I DONT WANT TO BE INVOLVED
Mon tak3shi And i dont want a GB on your kd
Mon tak3shi Proteus wants it
Mon tak3shi stop making him happy
Mon tak3shi and me pissed off!
Mon Cody hehe, just relax, its our kd in the crosshairs after all
Mon tak3shi but im getting forced to get involved and im not happy
Mon tak3shi 1/2 my ex-kd mates getting gb'ed doesnt make me happy too
Mon tak3shi let alone me participating in it
Mon Cody allow us leadership some time to chat
Mon tak3shi who is leadership?
Mon tak3shi sjet
Mon tak3shi silva u?
Mon tak3shi ok its 4am
Mon tak3shi i need to wake up in 4hrs
Mon tak3shi dont let this disintegrate into a mess
Mon tak3shi war rage and beat them the legit way
Mon tak3shi not suffer a gb and get dropped oor
Mon Cody me and silva are equal comonarchs
No response after that

These weren't the only logs, if I had a pure NAP without conditions unlike you, I wouldn't have broken it.

[Ghetto_King]

Wrong. If you submitted notice when you were able to, waited the 48 hours, and initiated the hostile, I'm sure they would have warred you. We'll never know because you dealbroke them before all of that could happen and despite the dealbreak, they warred you anyways! So much for the "Rage won't war us" excuse.

You might have a legitimate complaint if you did things the right way, but you didn't. You dealbroke someone based solely on their words and not their actions. You went back on your word. Not them.

All up in someone elses Kool Aid. Talks/Threats between Monarchs are as binding as the talks between Monarchs for the NAP. WTH are you talking about? I like the selective hearing and facts from others. Im wondering when are the Wannabes gonna let it go. Seems like alot of drama queens.

[Ghetto_King]

We didn't deal break u, we specifically mentioned if was a NAP unless there's AWAR of there was some drama requiring alliance action. You deal broke and I asked you numerous times to return the acres to Rage almost 1 week in advance. Utopia is not only age long, your short term delusions will haunt you in the future.

I think it's perfectly clear in the logs i posted earlier.



These weren't the only logs, if I had a pure NAP without conditions unlike you, I wouldn't have broken it.

Love the mightier than thou approach. Im not a dealbreaker because I said so.........................

[SillyRabbit]

Not sure what your logs are trying to prove tak3shi. But I can post some too

[23:55] <Cody> So to confirm again: The deal is that Rage surrenders war. Rage and Us sign EoA Cf, rage/sanc sign EoA cf with x:xx, and we clear relations with sanc
[23:58] <Drixx> since you won't clear relations with hoh, we can't cf x:xx
[23:58] <Cody> that was the deal you offered
[23:58] <Drixx> what I talked about included you re-CFing hoh
[23:58] <Drixx> you keep refusing
[23:59] <Drixx> we have nothing to do with x:xx
[23:59] <Cody> thats true, but sanc and them can still cf i assume. and you can give me assurance that you wont just vulture them?
[00:00] <Drixx> Sanc wants to cf them so I think that's no problem
[00:00] <Drixx> and you wrecked our core
[00:00] <Drixx> we're not in any position to vulture anybody
[00:00] <Cody> alright then, we have come to an agreement.
[00:05] <Drixx> my kd will not allow me to withdraw us and leave an ally hanging out to dry
[00:05] <Drixx> must you refuse to cf hoh?
[00:06] <Cody> ive chatted with tak3shi over the page age and we've been on friendly terms. a lot of the guys he played with before were in my kd. him and silva came to a cf agreement on friendly terms, and he backstabbed us. i appreciate he was doing his part for the alliance, and if we had no relations he would get the cf, like sanc is
[00:06] <Cody> but there are extenuating circumstances in this scenario. we stand on our position

[Ghetto_King]

"Mon Cody part of the nap was that after cf we would war. and when we discussed war with drixx and he advised that he would not war, or give acres as we agreed, we decided to take action right then and there. we would not have given rage a cf at all if we would not have gotten war. those banks would not have been able to grow unless they cfed us. drixx led us to believe they would war just to get the cf, and then once the banks were up and cf coming close to an end, his position on war changed. yes there was an ingame CF as part of our NaP agreement, but drixx broke the "war" part of our agreement, and we felt we shouldnt honour the ingame cf if they wouldnt honour the war part. whether it was just some mindgames or tactics, i dont know. it was not heresay, it came from the monarch? himself"

Nothing more to see here. Now whats HoHs excuse for dealbreaking?

[SillyRabbit]

Ghetto_King this is a topic about Dealbreakers vs HoH. Conflict with Rage is over and should stay in the past.
HoH is not dealbreaking us, tak3shi says he has valid excuse to break NaP. We don't mind.
We in war now, lets just have fun

[DonJuan]

Tak3shi is playing/leading in HoH this age? Must be fun fun up over thurr!!!

[Farore]

Less talk about the war and end-of-war negotiations with Rage, more talk about the Dealbreakers' current war with HoH! (which is what this thread is supposed to be about)!

[goodz]

Rage / sanc truly are lame if they left hoh uncfed

[tak3shi]

The hilarious part in all of this is that I initiated peace talks between Drixx and Debauch. So there would be an end to the razes an even stopped razes for 8hrs while the peace talks was going on in good faith. :)

[SillyRabbit]

[21:35] <tak3shi> agree to an MP, i will stop razes. And persuade rage to do so too.
[21:35] <Cody> my position is clear in my logs with drixx
[21:35] <tak3shi> if u dont there's nothing else I can help you with.
[21:35] <tak3shi> i need both of u to compromise
[21:35] <Cody> you havent really helped me at all
[21:35] <Cody> in fact, you directly are hurting me
[21:36] <tak3shi> I told u last saturday
[21:36] <tak3shi> return the acres
[21:36] <tak3shi> dont let it get messy
[21:36] <Cody> you and sanc are the reason it is getting messy :)
[21:36] <tak3shi> that was the 1st advice I gave you. Deal braking causes an alliance to move
[21:37] <tak3shi> Make peace and don't deal brake
[21:37] <tak3shi> 2nd: I offered to mediate
[21:38] <tak3shi> u both had communication problems which u assumed he was running from war and he assumed were gonna double him
[21:38] <tak3shi> and u had no clause that stated that even if he ran from war
[21:38] <tak3shi> that u could deal brake
[21:38] <tak3shi> meeting 1/2 way is doing an MP. U have grown your cows
[21:39] <tak3shi> Rage is still in bad shape
[21:39] <Cody> not really, they were 6.6k, 6k, 5.4k at war start
[21:39] <Cody> so we didnt really grow at that much
[21:39] <Cody> now 7k, 7k, 5.6k
[21:39] <Cody> 7k 6k 5.6k *
[21:39] <tak3shi> in comparison to rage losing a cow
[21:40] <tak3shi> which is not easy to raise
[21:40] <Cody> Anyways thanks for trying to help. Hard to think you are trying to mediate when im watching your kd razekill the 4th player here. ill keep all discussion to just drixx for now
[21:40] <tak3shi> I stopped razes
[21:40] <tak3shi> for the entire period of discussion
[21:41] <tak3shi> I also stopped razes for 7-8 ticks
[21:42] <Cody> You can make peace with us by stopping now. Surely you are acting purely because you are abs member, and not on reason. it is clear rage got their revenge, and still lost in war. fair is they WD and move on. we would WD if we ended up losing, but we did not
[21:42] <tak3shi> I've been pressured
[21:43] <tak3shi> u cannot stop the hits without making peace.
[21:43] <tak3shi> im not asking you to WD
[21:43] <tak3shi> I'm asking you to offer an MP, for that I will stop razes.
[21:44] <tak3shi> You're giving me nothing to work with