Human A/M

[Crowcide]

What is a good build for human A/M? About what should your elites to specialist ratio be? Thanks.

[Pak]

Hi, your ratios may depend a little on your size. But try to run about 35-40 dpa (with forts) and rest to Ospecs. You defense should mainly contain of Elites which will give you more flexibility AND make you less vulnurable to ops. This warbuild is by no mean the best build as I've made this up pretty quickly with not much calc but its decent:

10%homes
8% farms (depend on your food science)
10%banks
13%TG
10%Barracks
6% forts
15%Guilds
13%Towers
(15% WT depending on who you are warring)

Tips: If you can army in/out you can make some stables and raze them right after your first hit and rebuild to something else.
You could also squeeze in 2-4% dungeons. Reason Im not putting Dungeons in your Warbuild here is since i know many people hate them. Dont know why though since they are awesome.

Btw, what is your personality?

[Palem]

I would suggest not running mage. ToG if your best spell and it's not offensive.

[Crowcide]

What would you run then? What personality? I wanna run human next age and I know they build pretty different than other attackers - not sure how.

[LightWolf]

Human rogue play a/t and tog like crazy. Run 2-3 wpa to keep your pez for as long as possible in war. Need 10-15% banks and 15% tds. Need enough towers to tog 24/7. The rest all depends on kd break up and your size in war, have fun and adapt. Run 2 dspa and rest elite up to 40 dpa I like higher def and if you need you can send a few elites on attack.

[Ethan]

Human rogue A/T or a/T is classic.
Human sage A/T or A/t is classic.
Personally, I run human as an A/t/m* - nearly 2 rwpa, modded to nearly 4. If I get chained, LL is good. If I don't, maybe I fb some if we don't need dragon. If we need another dragon up, I ToG. This is only recommended if you are "in the getto" and can get really good sci - tougher competition forces you to focus more.

As Palem mentioned - ToG is great, and a real mage doesn't have mana in war to use it. That said, Human sage A/m (fb only) is a strong attacker and does fb damage just fine, and Human mystic is one of the better A/M roles for MS coverage. (But T/Ms usually better.) You can do it, but you are giving up one of their best strengths during the most important time. (You still get to ToG oow, at least.)

True A/M is hard to play in any role, IMO. Forced mystic for MS, forced to carry 5-6 rwpa, you just can't get as much attack power as an A/T. MS *is* more damaging long run though than what thieves put out, which is the trade you make.

[Topsy]

If used for ToG, a hum/myst in war has a 20% econ mod. The same econ mod attached to merchants. With higher raw wpa they are less easy to fb, creating increased econ security. Furthermore, mystic creates the most building effeciency of pers, something nice for a race as dynamic as human which can a/t/m, but would need the space to do so. It's certianly not the only option, but it isn't necessarily a bad one.

[Pak]

I agree with the above comments. Humans shouldnt run A/M. I only posted the build since you asked and thaughted you'd already started to run as A/M. For human a combination of attaker/thief is preffered. You can ofcourse run as a bank also, but in that case i would prefer faery.

Human/rogue or Human/sage is preferd.

[Crowcide]

Thanks, what would a human build A/T look like?

[Crowcide]

Would something like:

10%Homes
8%Farms
10%banks
10%TG
15%Guilds
13%Towers
10%WT
14%TD
10%GS

be good?

[Pak]

WT and GS depends hugely on your KD setup and who you are warring... Might not be needed. Throw in some barracks, you will need it.

[Crowcide]

Would rax be because my elites are 4/4? I typically don't run rax because I tend to get 2 attacks in a day regardless of speed.

[Pak]

You are running as an A/T so you will not have insane OPA. So better to run with some rax so you can do fast hits. Especially if you got chained but i doubt you will be priliminary target. If you aren't then i would suggest getting rid of your GS.

Btw, if you are not able to army in/out with rax then skip them. Make some hosp instead and some more TDs is always good.

Also remember to keep good science and invest it properly.

[Crowcide]

Thanks for your help. I've always played pure A or T/M so i'm a little nervous to trying something new.

[Pak]

Ah, Yep Human is diffrent in many ways from other races

Btw for A/m dwarf is your best bet