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    ED vs Crownmakers

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    Damn, Drug really robbed you of this thread didnt he? :(

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    I feel so sorry for you that I'm just gonna go ahead and make a second post!

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    Since the other thread has devolved into AMA and other kingdoms arguing:

    Final summary of hostile + war:

    Overall gain for PewPew was around 7-7.5k
    Overall gain for ED including WW bonus was around 3-4k

    LL war was about +1k in ED's favor

    ** Summary **
    Total attacks made: 322 (55,495 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 273 (50,059 acres)
    -- Ambush: 22 (3,065 acres)
    -- Conquest: 17 (2,371 acres)
    -- Failed: 10 (3.1% failure)
    -- Uniques: 118
    Total attacks suffered: 398 (46,819 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 374 (44,281 acres)
    -- Ambush: 21 (2,538 acres)
    -- Failed: 3 (0.8% failure)
    -- Uniques: 120

    ** The kingdom of PewPew **
    Total land exchanged: +8,676 (322/398)
    +5,915 An unknown province (19/0)
    +2,794 Page is loaded (5 [5]/1)
    +1,804 Pulse is racing (7 [5]/2)
    +1,764 Id rather be dead (13 [6]/2)
    +1,760 button pressed (15 [6]/3)
    +1,617 No wait it is coming (18 [6]/3)
    +1,589 lets try again (14 [6]/1)
    +1,531 in my head (4 [4]/0)
    +1,511 down my chest (4 [4]/0)
    +1,429 I hate this part (17 [6]/3)
    +1,402 time to restart (11 [6]/3)
    +1,095 Oops page flashes (10 [4]/6)
    +750 Offense entered (18 [6]/7)
    +525 it wont ever end (20 [5]/13)
    +28 But still it is nothing (10 [4]/4)
    -87 I count to ten (7 [4]/14)
    -365 Computer crashes (20 [6]/20)
    -500 when will it end (0/1)
    -811 Rage is rising (14 [7]/21)
    -912 Sweat is dripping (22 [6]/49)
    -1,543 Welcome BACK to Utopia (18 [5]/45)
    -1,707 Servers are failing (14 [6]/42)
    -1,886 Old friend (3/8)
    -4,497 Just press send (21 [6]/80)
    -4,530 No matter our sorrow (18 [5]/70)


    ** The kingdom of ED **
    Total land exchanged: -8,676 (398/322)
    +3,166 An unknown province (11/0)
    +2,681 Tears in Heaven (22 [6]/3)
    +2,271 Hell and Back (21 [6]/4)
    +2,130 Heavenyeah (14 [4]/0)
    +846 Feels Like Heaven (20 [6]/6)
    +796 Better to reign in hell (21 [6]/13)
    +785 Jingle Hells (18 [5]/4)
    +692 Shake Heaven (18 [6]/4)
    +688 If Youre Going Through Hell (18 [7]/6)
    +436 Just like heaven (22 [6]/8)
    +363 stairway to heaven (17 [5]/12)
    +179 Cowboys from Hell (22 [7]/32)
    -126 Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers (9 [4]/1)
    -230 All Hell Breaks Loose (21 [6]/10)
    -374 Heaven Is A Place On Earth (5 [3]/3)
    -390 Hells Bells (19 [5]/44)
    -570 Farewell my Hell (1/2)
    -1,137 Heaven And Hell Squared (22 [6]/30)
    -1,321 Heaven is a Halfpipe (20 [6]/31)
    -1,385 Bat out of hell (7 [3]/6)
    -1,877 Heavens Devils (10 [3]/6)
    -2,248 Straight to hell (11 [4]/7)
    -2,417 Hell Awaits (0/7)
    -3,092 Highway To Hell (19 [7]/41)
    -4,141 Heaven is a Lie (18 [6]/33)
    -4,401 Hellyeah (12 [3]/9)

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    Last edited by Tox; 05-11-2013 at 17:20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tox View Post
    Since the other thread has devolved into AMA and other kingdoms arguing:

    Final summary of hostile + war:

    Overall gain for PewPew was around 7-7.5k
    Overall gain for ED including WW bonus was around 3-4k

    LL war was about +1k in ED's favor

    ** Summary **
    Total attacks made: 322 (55,495 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 273 (50,059 acres)
    -- Ambush: 22 (3,065 acres)
    -- Conquest: 17 (2,371 acres)
    -- Failed: 10 (3.1% failure)
    -- Uniques: 118
    Total attacks suffered: 398 (46,819 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 374 (44,281 acres)
    -- Ambush: 21 (2,538 acres)
    -- Failed: 3 (0.8% failure)
    -- Uniques: 120

    ** The kingdom of PewPew **
    Total land exchanged: +8,676 (322/398)
    +5,915 An unknown province (19/0)
    +2,794 Page is loaded (5 [5]/1)
    +1,804 Pulse is racing (7 [5]/2)
    +1,764 Id rather be dead (13 [6]/2)
    +1,760 button pressed (15 [6]/3)
    +1,617 No wait it is coming (18 [6]/3)
    +1,589 lets try again (14 [6]/1)
    +1,531 in my head (4 [4]/0)
    +1,511 down my chest (4 [4]/0)
    +1,429 I hate this part (17 [6]/3)
    +1,402 time to restart (11 [6]/3)
    +1,095 Oops page flashes (10 [4]/6)
    +750 Offense entered (18 [6]/7)
    +525 it wont ever end (20 [5]/13)
    +28 But still it is nothing (10 [4]/4)
    -87 I count to ten (7 [4]/14)
    -365 Computer crashes (20 [6]/20)
    -500 when will it end (0/1)
    -811 Rage is rising (14 [7]/21)
    -912 Sweat is dripping (22 [6]/49)
    -1,543 Welcome BACK to Utopia (18 [5]/45)
    -1,707 Servers are failing (14 [6]/42)
    -1,886 Old friend (3/8)
    -4,497 Just press send (21 [6]/80)
    -4,530 No matter our sorrow (18 [5]/70)


    ** The kingdom of ED **
    Total land exchanged: -8,676 (398/322)
    +3,166 An unknown province (11/0)
    +2,681 Tears in Heaven (22 [6]/3)
    +2,271 Hell and Back (21 [6]/4)
    +2,130 Heavenyeah (14 [4]/0)
    +846 Feels Like Heaven (20 [6]/6)
    +796 Better to reign in hell (21 [6]/13)
    +785 Jingle Hells (18 [5]/4)
    +692 Shake Heaven (18 [6]/4)
    +688 If Youre Going Through Hell (18 [7]/6)
    +436 Just like heaven (22 [6]/8)
    +363 stairway to heaven (17 [5]/12)
    +179 Cowboys from Hell (22 [7]/32)
    -126 Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers (9 [4]/1)
    -230 All Hell Breaks Loose (21 [6]/10)
    -374 Heaven Is A Place On Earth (5 [3]/3)
    -390 Hells Bells (19 [5]/44)
    -570 Farewell my Hell (1/2)
    -1,137 Heaven And Hell Squared (22 [6]/30)
    -1,321 Heaven is a Halfpipe (20 [6]/31)
    -1,385 Bat out of hell (7 [3]/6)
    -1,877 Heavens Devils (10 [3]/6)
    -2,248 Straight to hell (11 [4]/7)
    -2,417 Hell Awaits (0/7)
    -3,092 Highway To Hell (19 [7]/41)
    -4,141 Heaven is a Lie (18 [6]/33)
    -4,401 Hellyeah (12 [3]/9)

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    You're really dumb.

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    Or maybe he just likes musicals :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tox View Post
    ** The kingdom of PewPew **
    Total land exchanged: +8,676 (322/398)

    ** The kingdom of ED **
    Total land exchanged: -8,676 (398/322)
    What was the reason for Pew to withdraw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyB View Post
    What was the reason for Pew to withdraw?
    We grabbed the acres, but would never be able to keep em long term. NS and FB.... no def no army... that's my opinion.

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    A kingdom with 3 halflings and 2 fae NSd and FBed u and u wd min time, while you fought a kd with 6 halfers and 9 faes for 9 days :D?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter View Post
    A kingdom with 3 halflings and 2 fae NSd and FBed u and u wd min time, while you fought a kd with 6 halfers and 9 faes for 9 days :D?
    Well that's what is amazing. The last war, we were fbed, but only after 48 hours. And the fb were futile, never less than 60 % max peasant level.
    Ed FBd down at least my prov to 5 k peasants at the start of war...
    Imagine the birth rates there on 5 k vs 25 k. I didn't draft a single soldier for the entire war, not to mention nonexistent economy.
    The war before was mostly land lusts, and futile fb attempts.
    I forgot to add that I lost more than 22 k def specs in 48 hrs (2/3rd of def), while I lost the same amount in the entire 9 day war ....

    And also a sapphire dragon one way in this war makes it much harder to defend.

    ED strat against us was much better than war before.
    Last edited by Lurking Ghost; 06-11-2013 at 19:37.

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    Bottom line was that we weren't in a good position to fight an extended 1-way dragon war. The difference here between this and AMA was we were out of dragon range against AMA and the ops weren't as severe. Our kd strat going in was more geared for a 2 day wd ignoring dragons. It was basically like CLG in season 2 (if you get this joke <3).

    Our faeries at the start of war were 9.4k, 7.5k and 6.9k and had just grown from 4.7k, 4.2k and 4.4k, respectively, in the week prior. This meant we could prep our provs for war but had nothing left for dragons. Their big bank was more afraid of outside hits into war (read: AMA) so it pumped massive dspecs. This meant it couldn't even break our 9.4k faery and single tap our smaller faeries, it also meant it could solo kill 2 dragons without the rest of their kd contributing anything. So even more reason not to waste the gc, which we didn't have.

    The big acre gain turning point came after their mini dwarf (then ~8700 acres) left sub 300k def after its second hit. We saw an opportunity and took it, grabbing around 2k acres in one wave of hits from the faeries. Before this we were just single tapping the large avians for minimal (~300-500 acre) gains.

    This was rather unexpected and put our faeries much farther ahead of where we thought we would be at that point. The sapphire was really more of a factor than anything. Gaining land is great but after 2-3 more days of war it would have all been given back slowly due to ED's ops advantage, and we could have possibly lost a faery as well which wasn't worth the risk.

    Just an example, their faery LL'd like 600-700 acres in one wave of ops from one of our larger avians with 1-2 fails while our elves struggled to land an MS on their large avians.
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