Now that we've had some time, how are the changes this age?

**Humanoize** · 13-11-2013, 01:06

agree with the elite price on humans. Sage not working on the other hand is total nonsense. Just need to run max schools OOW. Getting the science is very easy and the bpa is great.

**tras19** · 13-11-2013, 01:29

Originally Posted by Tox

I think it's funny that we've turned Faeries into DEs of old.

Hahaha lets just take that all the way and give fae rune free spells. That would solve the rune shortage issue as well :-P

**makeo** · 13-11-2013, 02:06

Fae had to be changed.
I'm sure some hate it. I'd give it a +1 o spec, rather than free runes again.

**Grunkz** · 13-11-2013, 08:00

i like the focus on wars - attackers are goodo this age

**brickwolfman** · 13-11-2013, 08:09

Originally Posted by peteyb22

Definitely agree! We need double towers back.

rob them perhaps??? seems to have to solved that problem in my KD's last war

**Spahrep** · 13-11-2013, 12:27

Wolfman: Your signature is challenging palem's old one for longest on the forums lol.

Also re: rune shorage, we just all ran more towers, seemed to work out. It just took us 3 wars to figure it out hahah :P

Additionaly mystics arent useless. We ran zero and yea, that turned out less than ideal. They are still useful, and you still need them, they just arent OP.

**Bishop** · 13-11-2013, 12:32

You guys had it too easy.

**texn** · 13-11-2013, 13:04

Originally Posted by Bishop

You guys had it too easy.

Give me Dark Elf, i have no problem being the only one ;)

**Persain** · 13-11-2013, 13:22

Originally Posted by prot

You're comparing the elite of 3 totally different races and trying to make them equal purely on numbers.
Human is just not as good mainly because of the pop penalty, not because of the elite cost. Costs of troops are a temporary issue, the pop penalty is a permanent one. Once you get troops stacked enough, it doesnt matter if your elites are 500gc or 1000gc. And human shouldn't have an issue pumping elites and science with ToG

Humans are mostly fine and can compete with orc/undead/dwarf/avain when both sides are drafted down to 4-5 peasants/acre. Cost of troops and time to pump just hurts them alot even if it is temporary it slows you down.

**crease** · 13-11-2013, 13:28

Originally Posted by Persain

Humans are mostly fine and can compete with orc/undead/dwarf/avain when both sides are drafted down to 4-5 peasants/acre. Cost of troops and time to pump just hurts them alot even if it is temporary it slows you down.

^This. Prot did you miss the calcs on actual income? a 10ppa avian has the same income as a 7ppa human even factoring in ToG, but it has to deal with 10% lower BE and double cost leet. Any use for human that isnt attacking is even less optimal due to natural thief resistance(CS), low BE and ToG being required to run decent army.

edit 1:Granted It has one major bonus in the 4 def leet, but that helps zero while youre whoring, once your pumping you can run 1-2less dspa but you got there 2 weeks later in age and already got powerplayed.

edit 2:This ofcourse assumes that human/avian would be running the same military strength to whore, what likely needs to happen is human needs to run 20% more pezzies than an avian to a similar number of those double cost leets with ToG so suddenly its 10 ppa avian vs 12 ppa human. Now you are 5 units/acre down in whore build.

Lol, guess humans wouldnt be fixed by a 750 leet after all. Thats not enough.

**Palem** · 13-11-2013, 14:46

Originally Posted by Spahrep

Wolfman: Your signature is challenging palem's old one for longest on the forums lol.

My sig was never long. People were just upset with the double banners =\

**brickwolfman** · 13-11-2013, 16:58

Also re: rune shorage, we just all ran more towers, seemed to work out. It just took us 3 wars to figure it out hahah :P

Sure we ran more towers but still robbed lots of runes to. had the double effect of us using close to all mana KD wide and saved our econ due to enemy not having runes to FB us....win win on robbing :)

Additionaly mystics arent useless. We ran zero and yea, that turned out less than ideal. They are still useful, and you still need them, they just arent OP.

Should'a ran halfer mystics....totally untouchable except from elfs. but elf sucks this age so no worries there.

Wolfman: Your signature is challenging palem's old one for longest on the forums lol.

ill add to it from time to time when i see something funny or what i think is useful :D

**Araqiel** · 13-11-2013, 17:05

Originally Posted by brickwolfman

Should'a ran halfer mystics....totally untouchable except from elfs. but elf sucks this age so no worries there.

I lol'd. Absolutely destroyed halfer mystics this age.

**brickwolfman** · 13-11-2013, 17:19

Originally Posted by Araqiel

I lol'd. Absolutely destroyed halfer mystics this age.

im sure some warring KD is using them properly to great effect. if it were up to me there would have been at least 2 of them where i play.

**crease** · 13-11-2013, 22:31

wtf is a halfer mystic?

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