Honor Question

[Bukharistan]

Simple:

Are honor gains affected by gains apart from relative NW?

[Palem]

"Affected by gains"

Could you clarify what you mean by this?

[Persain]

Bukharin, when attacking im 99% sure that GS & science do not effect honor gains. For t/m ops more damage done=more honor for riots & steal. Damange done via NM doesnt effect gains nor does the duration of things like storms/MS.

[Palem]

Relative honor is also a factor

[Bukharistan]

"Affected by gains"

Meant Avian/Orc/Sci bonusses with this.

So, basically, an all Avian kingdom would always out-honor an all Orc KD (everything else being the same)?

[noobium]

"Affected by gains"

Meant Avian/Orc/Sci bonusses with this.

So, basically, an all Avian kingdom would always out-honor an all Orc KD (everything else being the same)?

An avian would get more honor in a situation where they are never targeted by any ops, assuming the avian and orc hit the exact same targets at the same nw range. However because the avian has less offense to work with and land bloat occurs faster, the avian won't hit the same targets as efficiently, and of course relative honor effects come into play. That doesn't factor and hits against the attackers nor ops in either direction.

The fundamental answer though is that gains mod doesn't affect honor gains - you will get full honor for hitting into and out of fortified stance for instance.

The only really effective way to gain honor long-term is to fight in a way that wins wars. It doesn't matter how much a setup is designed to honor whore, because the win is worth so much honor and advantage in future conflicts.

[Persain]

"Affected by gains"

Meant Avian/Orc/Sci bonusses with this.

So, basically, an all Avian kingdom would always out-honor an all Orc KD (everything else being the same)?

if both sides are siting on 500 acres zero def trading his back and forth the orc will end up larger in land and the avain will end u higher in honor. Its not something i would plan a kd around in anyway. as noobium implies ops and target choice can completely negate the honor gains.