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Thread: War Strategy - would you do it?

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    War Strategy - would you do it?

    Deep in War, one side does an intra KD attack to increase a TM`s Wpa and Tpa.

    Would you do it




    January 4 of YR5 We have declared WAR on (XX) WAR AGREED!

    July 22 of YR5 In local kingdom strife, Attacker invaded TM and captured 221 acres of land.

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    You're missing the "that's a really dumb idea" option lol

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    sure it's a strategy. it's the "we are **** at building t/ms" strategy.

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    it can be a good tactical move should you need to make a play with that tpa/wpa in the very short term to get a greater advantage later on. However, unless you are about to fall into a landslide situation of being propped out by rogues, or it will allow you to create a similar landslide in a short duration, and delaying it further will weaken you drastically (say idk sending+slaying a drag then razing to get OONW range briefly to get that 1way for the full ticks op duration while you mess up a fae) then there is limited usage. Using it to stop ur TM's going down to rogues can be a strong play, other than that its pretty gimmicky and unlikely worth the short term gains for loss of econ.
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    No dragons in play when it happened. Between the 2 kds a total of 13 have been in play so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neanderthal View Post
    No dragons in play when it happened. Between the 2 kds a total of 13 have been in play so far.
    we're you just starting to AW/prop the TM in question with decent results? Or if its rogue can he now do that to ur TM's?

    edit: its the halfer right? yeah its not doing anything by itself, you will be able to outpump whatever damage it can do just swapping out into high guilds on ur elves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crease View Post
    it can be a good tactical move should you need to make a play with that tpa/wpa in the very short term to get a greater advantage later on.
    No way. One might as well have served them up on a silver platter. Any Kingdom worth their salt would immediately move to negate any "advantage" one had hoped to procure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tovarishch View Post
    No way. One might as well have served them up on a silver platter. Any Kingdom worth their salt would immediately move to negate any "advantage" one had hoped to procure.
    it can take days to repump up to desired tpa that a single raze can do to the buffing of a halfer. Especially if your TM's are not free pumping at max pop after slaying several dragons. If said halfer goes from 20mtpa to ~27 youve got to pump 2+ tpa on ur fae's to counter that. If a 10mtpa fae gets a raze youve got to get an extra 8-10 mtpa to continue propping him. Its not ideal but it can certainly have its uses.

    If that SINGLE raze allows that prov to stabilize then its certainly done its job, it can recover in a blanket. If the halfer thats taken a SINGLE raze allows it to prop you and start gaining tpa/wpa solely from props where before it was failing often enough to not gain then the power transfers to them.
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    The intra was against an Elf Mystic.

    July 22 of YR5 In local kingdom strife, Byrd is the Wyrd invaded rockNroll and captured 221 acres of land.
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    would still need to know if ur fae's are mystic/sage or rogue. If rogue then the same applies, more so for elf since its econ is weaker anyway. If ur fae's are mystic/sage then meh, having 1 pumped up elf wont do a fat lot, you have plenty of targets to kidnap from to regain any damage to fae's with fb's. I doubt it will be able to nado your faes if they are mystic/sage, but it might be a problem if they are rogues, but again its an isolated elf, if it can and they raze other elves there might be a problem, but losing so much econ wouldnt be worth it. Would be better for them to swap to high guilds than raze 60% of their (potential) UB's.
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    Fae = mystics
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    I dunno why you'd waste your offense during a long war to intra your own t/ms. Would it make more sense to massacre some big t/m oor?

    I like putting acres on Elf if it's done in moderation. Suck up the higher fail rate for more econ, maybe build extra guilds to raise wpa slowly and (if early age) run science to improve channeling. The major problem with putting acres on elf is keeping their thief defense strong, and having to expose themselves to get those acres easily.

    Maybe if you bloated your Elves a lot in war it would make sense to drop them, but I would be dropping more for ops defense than offense, and assuming that the Elf is in a position where they can be fireballed and controlled. Offense it doesn't matter, being 20% bigger and failing twice as often isn't that big a deal. At that late stage of the war, how many targets do you really need to MS, and are those targets going to be so much easier at a smaller size?

    I like the extra acres on Elf because it enables them to shift towards t/m from a starting position of a/m, whereas static t/m loses so much potential... but it's situational for sure. Dunno why you'd drop a static Elf unless they got violated by AW or massacre.

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    Just use your 3k acre provinces to do massacres and you'll see how fast you'll win :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoyl12 View Post
    Just use your 3k acre provinces to do massacres and you'll see how fast you'll win :)
    lol... a 60 nw/a prov is likely sat on 20-30 opa depending on its built %. They arent massing anybody
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    So a 70k nw province can intra an elf while a 180k nw province cant?

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