Simians Vs Shinra

[Maximo]

Looks like a great war between undefeateds. Can we get some info on the lead up, and eventual declare? Looks like the Honor Crown winner could get decided here.

Dragon Situation? Who gave Button? Personalities being used?



Vs

[zaza945]

Brief summary

There was a yr10 cf in place and middle of yr8 simians began waving a kd (both of our only other war target) and ended up taking a lot of acres from them in a weird hostile/retal situation from the sounds of it. Resulted in us (shinra) being 60k acres, them 75k, we grew to catch up with them, they grew some more, we grew some more, ect all the way up to yr10.

We noticed them at start of yr10, when noticed expired they were in fort at 99.7k acres, we were 85.5k. We initiated hits giving ops and eventually button into fort. They declared about 6-7 hours after we gave button.

Dragon situation - we sent an emerald in hostile (actually, sent it in unfriendly instead of hostile by 1 hit accidentally.. bah), they slayed dragon before declare and sent a sapphire. We slayed sapphire abotu 12 hours into war, both kds dragon free now with simians funding gold we're funding sapphire.

We're dw/sage and orc/cleric with elf/mys and fa/rogue + 1 mys, they're human/sage and ud/warrior with 2 fa/mys 1 fa/rog 1 ha/mys 1 ha/rog.

Their second war wave just happened, ours coming up, will post summary following wave.

[zaza945]

hostile (into fort):

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from March 1 of YR10 till March 12 of YR10 - 12 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 37 (6,951 acres)
-- Traditional march: 33 (6,561 acres)
-- Conquest: 3 (390 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (108 acres)
-- Uniques: 19
Total attacks suffered: 3 (645 acres)
-- Traditional march: 3 (645 acres)
-- Uniques: 3

** The kingdom of Shinra **
Total land exchanged: +6,306 (37/3)
+2,224 An unknown province (11/0)
+741 BooZe (3/0)
+667 Gimli (3/0)
+560 Lonely Mountain (3/0)
+461 Sectumsempra (2/0)
+457 Shangrila (3/0)
+444 M00seFr3ak (2/0)
+418 a Mama Dragon (2/0)
+393 Waffle Dancing (3/0)
+171 FeelingItOhManThePain (1/0)
+139 Asset Specificity (1/0)
+125 Queen By Association (2/1)
+108 Chunnel II The Rebirth (1/0)
-494 Electric Avenue (0/2)


** The kingdom of Simians **
Total land exchanged: -6,457 (2/37)
-89 Stop hurting me (1/1)
-177 Playing this again (0/1)
-213 Centaurion (0/1)
-222 xXRxX (0/1)
-246 Bad Move (0/1)
-266 200 Crazy Coins (0/1)
-271 fa-my (0/1)
-361 OohTen (0/2)
-393 Fuke u (0/3)
-395 Therefore (0/2)
-485 Jigsaw (0/3)
-560 Warboy (0/3)
-566 King Infront The Wall (1/4)
-566 tESt (0/3)
-567 Darkness Falls (0/3)
-574 Wife vs utopia (0/3)
-614 AllGlory (0/4)

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War only after almost two full waves.

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from March 16 of YR10 till April 13 of YR10 - 22 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 92 (19,557 acres)
-- Traditional march: 86 (18,894 acres)
-- Ambush: 4 (484 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (179 acres)
-- Failed: 1 (1.1% failure)
-- Uniques: 31
Total attacks suffered: 103 (16,886 acres)
-- Traditional march: 84 (15,964 acres)
-- Ambush: 7 (922 acres)
-- Raze: 5 (0 acres)
-- Failed: 7 (6.8% failure)
-- Uniques: 39

** The kingdom of Shinra **
Total land exchanged: +2,671 (92/103)
+2,011 Bean (5/1)
+1,805 Skannatati (5/1)
+1,321 Brazil is Back (5/2)
+1,307 Forbidden Planet (5/0)
+1,009 FeelingItOhManThePain (4/0)
+675 Lonely Mountain (7/4)
+600 Queen By Association (8/6)
+458 An unknown province (2/0)
+387 Orc Mania (1/0)
+91 Chunnel II The Rebirth (3/2)
+75 Shangrila (2/2)
-220 Waffle Dancing (8/8)
-767 M00seFr3ak (7/9)
-834 BooZe (7/12)
-896 a Mama Dragon (8/20)
-902 Asset Specificity (3/8)
-1,301 Sectumsempra (4/8)
-2,148 Gimli (8/20)


** The kingdom of Simians **
Total land exchanged: -2,671 (98/97)
+1,337 Number 3 Bends (5/1)
+988 Hunger where are you (7/0)
+927 AllGlory (5/0)
+869 Playing this again (4/0)
+821 OohTen (6/0)
+795 Darkness Falls (3/0)
+635 Bad Move (2/0)
+624 Fuke u (4/0)
+598 Warboy (4/0)
+594 Jigsaw (7/2)
+580 Centaurion (4/0)
+550 Therefore (3/0)
+479 Wife vs utopia (2/0)
+447 Exotic Borneo (4/1)
+379 tESt (2/0)
+334 An unknown province (5/0)
+216 King Beyond The Wall (1/0)
-877 fa-my (0/2)
-1,395 Bon Temps (6/13)
-1,493 200 Crazy Coins (0/4)
-1,603 Pandemonium (0/4)
-1,735 King Infront The Wall (9/24)
-2,502 xXRxX (7/20)
-4,239 Stop hurting me (8/26)

[Ursuul]

-4,239 Stop hurting me (8/26)

made me lawl

[Bijl]

Brief summary

There was a yr10 cf in place and middle of yr8 simians began waving a kd (both of our only other war target) and ended up taking a lot of acres from them in a weird hostile/retal situation from the sounds of it. Resulted in us (shinra) being 60k acres, them 75k, we grew to catch up with them, they grew some more, we grew some more, ect all the way up to yr10.

We noticed them at start of yr10, when noticed expired they were in fort and about 20% acres larger than us, we initiated hits giving ops and eventually button into fort. They declared about 6-7 hours after we gave button.

Dragon situation - we sent an emerald in hostile (actually, sent it in unfriendly instead of hostile by 1 hit accidentally.. bah), they slayed dragon before declare and sent a sapphire. We slayed sapphire abotu 12 hours into war, both kds dragon free now with simians funding gold we're funding sapphire.

We're dw/sage and orc/warrior with elf/mys and fa/rogue + 1 mys, they're human/sage and ud/warrior with 2 fa/mys 1 fa/rog 1 ha/mys 1 ha/rog.

Their second war wave just happened, ours coming up, will post summary following wave.

13% bigger :P

[era]

Shinra waved into fort to give button AND are up in war? What are Simians doing? Were they just poorly prepped for conflict?

Would like to hear simians side of the story.

[skoyl12]

Simians have no chance. Zaza made an excel sheet that you need 16gb or ram to load and not crush your pc

[Anri]

Shinra waved into fort to give button AND are up in war? What are Simians doing? Were they just poorly prepped for conflict?

Would like to hear simians side of the story.

Not sure if anyone is following the war but we mainly hit dwarfs down.
These dwarfs are sitting on 4-6 mill books of science and was sick pumped/drafted before the fight. Meanwhile Shinras orc clerics is rather weak. We mainly hit dwarfs from the start and let the orcs grow. While Shinra hit our undeads mostly. How the acres shift place right now from our undeads to thier orcs and from thier dwarfs to our humans is interesting. Those orcs are really not going anywhere since they all under 100k def sitting with soon 5k acres.

The acres will shift for as long as we mainly hit dwarfs, this is not something we will do forever since we know if we want acres they are stacked on the orcs.

We know the battle itself will be played out among our top hummies and their t/ms.
Who funds dragon #2 first remains to see also. Most of our undeads got 5 generals and it should make a difference in the long run as well.

The problematic part for us was mostly how to prep for the war, going 75% warbuilt into the war with a few provs underdrafted. We purposly went for size advantage knowing we would lose some of its acres in war, but weight the good and bad about it against each other. The hostile zaza speaks about that happend before our conflict with Shinra was another KD that funded us about 12k acres total, they had agreed to war us but backed down and did 100% amnesia/aw/fb and mostly learns on us, so we grew some but lost strength in other ways.

Seems that before war and in war we managed to put a lot of acres in our top and keep them there and that itself looks good for the future.

Who will win and lose we dont know yet. Our wave is incoming now and i guess i post a summary after the wave and we see more how the acres shift...

Thanks to Shinra for this war, both kds waited a long time for a challenge like this and i think whoever wins the fight would make a good crown winner even if its not about the crown itself. For me its the prestige of beating zaza of shinra and his little helper persain. ;-)

I hope everyone is having fun and does thier best! Go shinra and Simians

[StratOcastle]

Oh, I don't know. Simians can war, just want to see a bit more.

Hmm..you guys use computers for the game? It's on the Internet isn't it?

I need to watch these Shinra wars more closely. You can pm me your true self so I'm not guessing who's who all age. I'm sworn to secrecy and not nudge winking about who you are. But I guess it's out now...

[khanmy]

I thought I was the right hand man... where did persain come from.... :-(...

[Crazyloon]

I thought I was the right hand man... where did persain come from.... :-(...

Don't let him get into your head. It's all mind games!

[Persain]

I thought I was the right hand man... where did persain come from.... :-(...

i run your bot...what do u expect

As for my advice it was limited to "make sure you control their peasants" seems like you are too < Zaza > Your wizards gather 4,373 runes and begin casting, and the spell succeeds. A fireball burns through the skies of Deep South 4,775 peasants are killed in the destruction! From what i've been told both kds are now on ~same peasant counts

[Anri]

i run your bot...what do u expect

As for my advice it was limited to "make sure you control their peasants" seems like you are too < Zaza > Your wizards gather 4,373 runes and begin casting, and the spell succeeds. A fireball burns through the skies of Deep South 4,775 peasants are killed in the destruction! From what i've been told both kds are now on ~same peasant counts

Yes were about same pessie count atm.
We started slowly using 5th warrior gen to raze top orcs while quad in range.
Its a interesting tactic ive not used in the past and well see how it turns out. First two warriors razed x2 1k+ land out of the top orcs. Our wave is incoming again. Well see how it plays out.

[zaza945]

Yes were about same pessie count atm.
We started slowly using 5th warrior gen to raze top orcs while quad in range.
Its a interesting tactic ive not used in the past and well see how it turns out. First two warriors razed x2 1k+ land out of the top orcs. Our wave is incoming again. Well see how it plays out.

Hmm wonder who you saw do that interesting idea..? hehe

[Anri]

Hmm wonder who you saw do that interesting idea..? hehe

not you because we used razes on chains for as long as i can remember.
This is entirely different because the ones we are razing is not chained, they are OOR and fat 4-5k juicy orcs

Good war zaza! Who you think gonna win?
Will you join KLA if we win?