#oddaznOriginally Posted by Darkz Azn
#oddazn
Can I be the Utopian Police in the future? MaugCop
funnyt how asf proposes a thing that cant happen with the nw differnce that is atm. Emeriti is too small to declare. Just more popaganda ?
It's all propaganda, from everyone.
The offer on the table is for BB to drop NW to 133% and Emeriti declares. It would end the AWAR (razings, gbs, etc) and everything returns to normal at the conclusion of the 1v1. I personally think that it's a fair deal.
Shouldn't the areas that caused the AWAR be discussed? Just a simple 1v1 to end hostilities has no repercussions for anything to come in the future? And how does a farm war solve anything? IMO Emeriti resetting completely is a far better deal for everyone involved.
The issues that caused the deal break and gb on Emeriti were discussed extensively. The #1 prov wanted to cf Bb to not get farmed. BB was on near 0 military after mass exploring and so the #1 prov messaged Bb asking for a cf. BB read and ignored multiple ingame messages and the #1 prov then razed BB for 350 acres and messaged again offering it all back plus more if BB would cf him. Emeriti told him to get a cf with BB before he got farmed and suggested that he could raze to force talks if BB wouldn't cf him.
This is all admitted and apologized for by Emeriti. The #1 prov who razed gave BB back 2.8x the land they lost. He also agreed to BB acre caps so he and his kd mates couldn't grow big anymore. Emeriti also offered BB whatever land and adjusted cf terms or other things they wanted to ensure they were in no way harmed. Every attempt at a reasonable solution was offered by Emeriti to BB to give whatever land and other terms bb wanted to ensure they weren't hurt.
Instead BB wanted to lie and deal brake and gb into war. This is all discussed in detail. Flogger has directly said he wanted "alliance war" all along and that's why he wasn't interested in any reasonable solution. He has discussed how he regretted Absalom disbanding since it's his utopian goal to beat Absalom in an alliance war. Absalom is gone, but Emeriti has some former Absalom people so this is the closest thing he could get.
There was simply no reason for BB to lie, deal break, and gb into war here. Emeriti didn't break any deals with them, Emeriti hadn't even touched them, and Emeriti offered BB whatever they needed for their role in trying to help advise a weak kingdom to get a cf with BB.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 19-06-2015 at 19:45.
Emerity told bour that he should raze BB, not could.
He waited for a whole of 3h. Damn I'm not even on 3h call for the place that pays me my salary. Funny you should forget this bit. I wonder where he got idea to wait only short 3h while he was under no immediate threat.
It was not the #1 province looking for CF, it was Emerity leadership slapping an ex leadership player, saying he should be razing into BB eowcf if they fail to reply under 3 hours.
Note that the "command" was executed to the letter.
I truly don't know who's right or wrong in the bigger picture.
What irks me is the shear dishonesty in your posts, and how insulting they are to the readers.
Last edited by SlightlyOverdosed; 19-06-2015 at 20:49.
You could nw drop and we push the button at the hour you choose. Alternatively, we could have others back out and max the meters. Funny how you won't war us and try and claim tht it's impossible when clearly it is not.
Ummm,
is flogger empowered to say when we have purged all our feelings of bad blood to those kingdoms? Particularly in light of the logs that were posted?
I dunno that is true.
"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
I don't.
"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
Godly looking out for his homeboys Zauper and Jwuzi. Ofc it would be fair to him
For the most part Emeriti has admitted to transgressions in their handling of the situation. I think that all that is left in this AWAR is that BB's side feels comfortable that their opponents will not be in any significant position to do counter damage in the future. As I stated in my thread, my opinion is that the response was over the top at the onset, and at this point I think it's reaching levels that it is uncomfortable for me to watch.
Kandy, no I am not. BB would dominate the war and place Emeriti into the lower top 10 with little to no banks. That coupled with their lack of pool, and being undersized, it would be almost impossible for them to do anything for the remainder of the round. I'm pretty sure that was the goal from the get go, unless BB's side will not yield until everyone is razekilled. When is enough enough?
Last edited by Godly; 19-06-2015 at 19:20.
Why is that? It seems like it's the first time Emerity came to the negotiation table. Should the other side just accept the first thing that Emerity is offering?
I am genuinely curios.
So far it seemed like both parties were fighting for the win, Emerity may have not asked for the war, but they and their allied sure have embraced it.
This thread should be called "A proposal to pretend like we've closed Pandora's Box"
Because that's what's really going on.
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