Pandas, formerly known as Simans, notice BB

[AquaSeaFoam]

ASF I know most of what Abs have done over the years nearly all the way back to roughly age 6 when they became relevant with who I played with and against, they started out fair but it quickly turned sour the more power they got... If I don't remember wrong Abs on more then one occasion launched wave after wave after wave into kingdommates of mine, simply because they were larger. (It is things like this I'm talking about). Don't get me wrong the game was much different then and diplo tho it was a big part rarely to my knowledge had as big influence as it does now, duo to back then there was simply too many to cf to have an easy ride.. (but to claim things like this never took place is wrong). - and I think most of the newer players remembers Abslap dog HoH (may they rest in peace), being used to block your enemies so Abs could secure the top spots while HoH always ended up a bit like Simians "close but not quite there".

I wasn't pointing specifically at this case I meant on a wide scale, i apologise if I worded in a way you misunderstood it.

Top kingdoms including Abs kingdoms did often bottom feed on smaller kingdoms but this was never anything organized at an alliance level. The game play was founded on the big fish eating the small fish and the whole "serial war kingdoms of similar size for wins" thing was a later feature and a significant change from the original game design. The smaller fish did have good ways to fight back though in the old days as well without fear of being trapped in a farm war they didn't want. Either way, yes kingdoms in Absalom bottom fed and other such things, but these were kingdom actions, not alliance actions.

Absalom kingdoms never farm warred each other or even farmed out to each other out of war to help each other crown. This was the topic here and it's something that Absalom kingdoms have never done despite the numerous opportunities to do so and give an ally a crown over the ages. People complain about Absalom a lot, but the number of real alliance issues worth complaining about are actually quite few. Sure there are some real complaints like from Elit and the Sonata crew but that was only after a ton of unprovoked **** done by them including deal breaks, gang bangs, and hacking and deleting of competitors provinces to name a few. Most issues are simply 1v1 fights/disagreements with a kingdom or kingdoms who were in Absalom that people choose to associate with Absalom rather than the kingdom. There was also a NAP effect problem created by a number of top kingdoms being NAP'd and therefore limited in targets and this was a real problem especially when most ages there was also a second large top alliance with a similar NAP effect.

If you look back on the charts you will see a significant number of ages where numerous Absalom kingdoms are in the top 10 but the #1 kingdom is not. I think this is most irrefutable evidence that Absalom didn't farm allies up to crown and also didn't gb competition down to crown just because they could. In fact, a strong kingdom not in Absalom typically had an advantage over an Absalom kingdom in charting despite what the average outsider may think especially in later ages. Having targets to war/farm was critical to a good finish and a strong Abs kingdom could never farm a weaker Abs kingdom. A non Abs kingdom could work out a cf deal with the strong Abs kingdom and farm the weak Abs kingdom to position themselves for a crown. This was a real advantage and was exploited well by some kingdoms for crowns.

As for HoH, when they were allied with Abs I believe they won the most crowns of any kingdom during that time including any Abs kingdom. Prior to their alliance with Absalom the modern HoH kingdom had never even been a crown competitor (old incarnations of HoH had.) Not to take anything away from HoH's accomplishments, but the general consensus in the ages HoH won was that Rage was the stronger kingdom. If you think HoH was a blocker kingdom so Abs could secure the top spots while HoH didn't crown, you have a misconception of history.

Also, Absalom is not the topic here, Absalom hasn't existed for many ages, and it simply didn't do what the topic of this thread is about. So back on topic please.

[Chris_Keeling]

Personally I would have wanted to see them fight in the ages they were #1 and #2 and close enough in range. Afaik Proteus wanted to war Sanc one age with Rage but Sanc declined (dunno details, is what Ive heard).
Its fairly easy to see if war is real or not so if game admin(s) would monitor it I wouldn't see the problem.

I agree. We (Sanc) would have loved to war Rage many times. They were staunch allies but many times they were the only real competition. Those days were instead decided by whoever simians farmed out too :(

[Judge]

I agree. We (Sanc) would have loved to war Rage many times. They were staunch allies but many times they were the only real competition. Those days were instead decided by whoever simians farmed out too :(

So you mean either BB or CJ will crown?

[Chrystal Palace]

Did I win yet?!?

[StratOcastle]

You are alone. Vultures are here...just need you to make 1 wrong move and they will feast on you.

I think those are hyenas. Vultures are post-mortem.

[American Badass]

I started off in this Pandas which is run by Cheetzy/Taylor. The only Simians that remained in it from what I can recall was Realm / Chuck (That rejoined and wasn't apart of the Sleepy/Simian merge), Myself (Am I really a simian? I'm a hopper + I left now and am gunning for CJ) and some dude named Totalzz. There was a few more that stayed from the Sleepy/Simian merge but were really Sleepy. Apart from that I saw about 10-15 new faces.

I see it that the alliance was only formed to stop the **** play that Emereti / bour did hitting into BB's EOW. I'm guessing the "alliance" was not about before the age begun.

TICK TOCK CJ

[Aranfein]

Haha nice stratOcastle, As always your posts are well worth the read when you keep them within the novel genre rather then a suspence story :P

[tetley]

strat's posts keep me coming back for more

[KuhaN]

Top kingdoms including Abs kingdoms did often bottom feed on smaller kingdoms but this was never anything organized at an alliance level. The game play was founded on the big fish eating the small fish and the whole "serial war kingdoms of similar size for wins" thing was a later feature and a significant change from the original game design. The smaller fish did have good ways to fight back though in the old days as well without fear of being trapped in a farm war they didn't want. Either way, yes kingdoms in Absalom bottom fed and other such things, but these were kingdom actions, not alliance actions.

Absalom kingdoms never farm warred each other or even farmed out to each other out of war to help each other crown. This was the topic here and it's something that Absalom kingdoms have never done despite the numerous opportunities to do so and give an ally a crown over the ages. People complain about Absalom a lot, but the number of real alliance issues worth complaining about are actually quite few. Sure there are some real complaints like from Elit and the Sonata crew but that was only after a ton of unprovoked **** done by them including deal breaks, gang bangs, and hacking and deleting of competitors provinces to name a few. Most issues are simply 1v1 fights/disagreements with a kingdom or kingdoms who were in Absalom that people choose to associate with Absalom rather than the kingdom. There was also a NAP effect problem created by a number of top kingdoms being NAP'd and therefore limited in targets and this was a real problem especially when most ages there was also a second large top alliance with a similar NAP effect.

If you look back on the charts you will see a significant number of ages where numerous Absalom kingdoms are in the top 10 but the #1 kingdom is not. I think this is most irrefutable evidence that Absalom didn't farm allies up to crown and also didn't gb competition down to crown just because they could. In fact, a strong kingdom not in Absalom typically had an advantage over an Absalom kingdom in charting despite what the average outsider may think especially in later ages. Having targets to war/farm was critical to a good finish and a strong Abs kingdom could never farm a weaker Abs kingdom. A non Abs kingdom could work out a cf deal with the strong Abs kingdom and farm the weak Abs kingdom to position themselves for a crown. This was a real advantage and was exploited well by some kingdoms for crowns.

As for HoH, when they were allied with Abs I believe they won the most crowns of any kingdom during that time including any Abs kingdom. Prior to their alliance with Absalom the modern HoH kingdom had never even been a crown competitor (old incarnations of HoH had.) Not to take anything away from HoH's accomplishments, but the general consensus in the ages HoH won was that Rage was the stronger kingdom. If you think HoH was a blocker kingdom so Abs could secure the top spots while HoH didn't crown, you have a misconception of history.

Also, Absalom is not the topic here, Absalom hasn't existed for many ages, and it simply didn't do what the topic of this thread is about. So back on topic please.

do you think wwe are just joking with you or something about these essays? its 100% serious. Procrastinate with life much?