If you define a hostile, you create loopholes that can be abused.Originally Posted by Palem
Here's a better question: How do you define running, and is it okay to run? If the answer is no, it doesn't matter if you're in hostile or war, you're free game, right? If the answer is yes, then it's like any other situation where you might be waving someone in conflict with another kd and should be evaluated through the same lens.
Or Jesters? :P
What does that have to do with the fact you said you are against backing out on war deals though?
So basically, it depends on your view of it. You could argue that cRAZiEs wasn't hostile with Jerks because of the land and NW difference between the two if you wanted. If you know it when you see it then you pretty much determine the nature of events based on your own biases. I put some very straightforward options forward for you to generally determine when a hostile starts/ends and your reply with that crap? Now we all know that you're in the corner. Hell, even Palem is calling you out on your BS and Palem generally stays the F out of the poo-flinging!
Nothing? I don't particularly like it. But... ED wasn't the one backing out, either? So... I'm confused.
When you define a hostile, you create excuses that this community can either choose to accept or deny as a valid reason why you're doing what you're doing.
As I said before, it's irrelevant though. Are you big and strong? Are your friends big and strong and will protect you? Would anyone else really care? If the answer to any of those questions is yes then what you're doing is perfectly fine because no one's going to do anything about it.
The reality is that things are different in different tiers.
Generally speaking, conflict begins at notice drop for the top tier. There was no notice to drop in either case. So where does conflict begin? At the first hit into the same-sized kingdom. Where does it escalate to hostile? When the second kingdom retals or the first kingdom hits several additional times.
Does that make you feel better?
e: and lol, palem is always involved.
Last edited by Zauper; 08-08-2015 at 21:33.
What, better than your vague crap about "Its commonly accepted" "Its community accepted" when confronted you are unable to give an answer to how or why or when or what.
Like I said a couple of posts before, first you say you feel strongly about breaking war deals but when FS gets dodged after a war deal you find the smallest possible excuse for that dodge and say it was warranted. It's funny how you twist and turn everything the way it fits you at the moment, that's all, keep it up, you are doing a good job :D
Matija complains about all the FS haters, brings up the topic himself in a totally different thread. Guess he as Anri was not getting enough attention lately. :(
Speaking of seeking attention...
Only a little bit. Basically, you're saying in Jerks' case hostile began when they hit several times regardless of giving button (which happened and helps your argument) and wouldn't haven ended until the bulk of troops came home, so basically 1 for the beginning and 3 for the ending just like I said. Why is it so hard to admit something like that? That's your view (at least of the top tier) and you're scared to get stuck to it. Is it because you might want to redefine it later? I think this might be the case.
In law things are gray and you can argue it all day long. Here in this game things are pretty straight forward and don't need to be argued as much. You easily could have said 1/3 or 2/3 for top tier, 2/3 for mid tier, 2/4 for bottom tier or whatever you perceive to be true in each case if you wanted. Instead you say you generally know it when you see it. You defeated your own argument several times here.
Your inability to read what I'm writing does not change the fact that I've already addressed your inquiries and don't need to repeat myself to you. Nice troll attempt, though.
That's my view for this situation, yes. However, and I want to point you to these words because I've said them a few times before -- for the top, hostile begins at CF drop. The reason why there is confusion here is because there was no notice to serve, etc. It's also not quite the top; jerks is t10 but not really t4-5 which is where that kind of play really tends to hold true.There are things you didn't say that really hold true for the top tier. Claiming I defeated my argument is almost as dumb as you seem to be acting.
In law things are gray and you can argue it all day long. Here in this game things are pretty straight forward and don't need to be argued as much. You easily could have said 1/3 or 2/3 for top tier, 2/3 for mid tier, 2/4 for bottom tier or whatever you perceive to be true in each case if you wanted. Instead you say you generally know it when you see it. You defeated your own argument several times here.
In any case, read through this thread. The only support you have for your definition is well... no one? Palem doesn't even seem to support your definition, he just thinks the whole thing is dumb because people will ignore it.
Whereas people from all tiers agree with my stance.
When arguments runs out the personal attacks comes forward. :)
So true, which means you have no arguments at all.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote