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  1. #61
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    oh just tick for feb 2? Oh that would be good.
    "having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
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    The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    oh just tick for feb 2? Oh that would be good.
    Yeak like if the game got rolled back to 1 second before 2th feb and when we all logged in we were back on 2feb but without all the havoc that happened during the 24h tic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    I don't see any compelling argument why we should.
    ofcourse u dont. imagine spending another 2 minutes on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loons View Post
    FYI i always have a bad oop due to ****ty connection, so for me it doesnt matter if we continue or reset. Either way i will have a bad oop.

    Godly, yes all the good targets with armies home have been hit, now though with the freeze it has opened up a **** ton of GREAT targets with army out with tons of offense and very low defense, that you can now strategically beat home by doing minus hours. Something pro players may do even during the frenzy. I understand this is always possible, however like i said before now you can do this without any rush, ie forgetting to minus hrs etc....
    If you're hitting people with a ton of offense on your very first hit, you're doing it completely wrong. It's hard for me to call completely inferior play with a very small silver lining a benefit. Thats the equivalent of playing russian roulette with a 7 load chamber instead of 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwitch View Post
    This situation hurts small and new kingdoms worse because they are the ones recruiting and teaching new players. New players that had to sit through freeze, then protection, that may have gotten to attack once and are now sitting bored and confused.
    The top tier rarely deals with absolutely new players. Their players are already hooked on the game and will play no matter when and how it starts again. They may complain but they won't just quit and find another game.
    That being said, for the new player that really wants to learn the game and isn't easily deterred this can be a great opportunity to learn a lot more. While in protection a lot of options such as thievery and war room are not visible. Now you have time to look at all the different thievery and magic operations, learn about all the functions of the war room and look up things you don't understand or ask your kingdom mates.
    Actually it really doesn't bother us. There are like 5 good players in our kd and the rest we recruited that have never played before or only started last age. This freeze time doesn't bother us at all. It actually helps because we took this time to point out why this prov only got 25 acres. What that prov should have done before she hit. What this other prov should have done to get better thievery gains. So like I said the freeze time doesn't hurt noob kingdoms. You will lose acres anyway. I mean who cares? Take this time and teach your people. Talk to your new recruits. Less QQ more pewpew.
    All for one and one for Chrystal!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    I don't see any compelling argument why we should.
    1) Accumulation of issues that caused unfair advantages for some players
    2) like half price thief costs that got fixed after some had already trained
    3) islands opening up so people who log later had a much wider range of targets available to attack/thieve
    4) the hostile meter thing
    5) i guess if some faeries spend 90% stealth on first tick and got back to 100% on second that is also a considerable advantage compared to those who thought to wait for better targets to become available

    basically the main point is in 1) just too many issues to just ignore, it would be a good sign to just admit that this was a pretty bad start of age and try to do it better on second try. just imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    I don't see any compelling argument why we should.
    Because it's broken? :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godly View Post
    I would love to come on here and complain about this round and get a reset since I only hit for 150 (very low number for me), but I'm a fair person.
    You're getting rusty. Those nubs in my ghetto hit for more! ;)

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    Islands didn't continue to open up. People that logged in late had the exact same range as the people who logged in on the 2nd.

    The hostile meter issue is just a display bug. Everything seems to be functioning correctly.

    The other 3 issues are incredibly minor. Some provinces lucked out and got the better side of the situation, it happens in both utopia and life. Adjust and deal with it.

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    Word. What palem said. Can we get more selfies instead of QQ?
    All for one and one for Chrystal!!

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    OK I don't quite understand what is occurring but I do see that more than 1/2 of the players in here feel that a reset is justified. But it appears that the mod(s) are ignoring that fact. I have been in other games when this junk had occurred, very early in the game, and a reset was done. I am sorry if I somehow gained an upper hand during all of this - but I will admit I did have fun attacking and winning; an interesting game I will say. (from what little I know of it)

    Again sorry X many. I hope it all works out well. Perhaps the next age (in Dec?) I will return to game. Have fun all. And special thanks to the GoodWitch and her friends for being so supportive in my learning to start a province within their kingdom. I'm sure she can find a replacement.

    GOOD LUCK ALL! And happy holidays!

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    Here's the issue at hand:

    The bug caused a serious problem that had to be fixed.
    The PAUSE created entirely different problems that had ramifications for many people, regardless of whether or not some people will admit it (I'm sure the people here clamoring for no-reset are the ones that benefited).
    The game should have been frozen entirely, not just paused. A complete freeze would have avoided this discussion entirely.

    Bishop won't reset (And will probably reply to this trying to explain why a pause was a good idea), because he only cares about the top-tier players because he lacks business skills - and has a frustrating inability to admit when he's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verminator View Post
    The devs set aside a very small amount of time for this game, they have jobs and such as well, so I would reason that Bishop is giving them a proper amount of time to a) finish sleeping, b) wake up and go to work, c) come home and examine the game. Unfortunately for them (and us), we're running into their Friday night, so let's hope they didn't have any plans then too. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelum View Post
    Here's the issue at hand:

    The bug caused a serious problem that had to be fixed.
    The PAUSE created entirely different problems that had ramifications for many people, regardless of whether or not some people will admit it (I'm sure the people here clamoring for no-reset are the ones that benefited).
    The game should have been frozen entirely, not just paused. A complete freeze would have avoided this discussion entirely.

    Bishop won't reset (And will probably reply to this trying to explain why a pause was a good idea), because he only cares about the top-tier players because he lacks business skills - and has a frustrating inability to admit when he's wrong.
    Classic victim mentality.

    Also, if Bishop was catering to top players (which is the opposite of what happens despite your Illuminati sources), then his business skills would be quite on point since they contribute FAR more to the business side of the game. Catering to the ghettos (which is what Bishop does) shows incredibly poor business skills. That's like opening a casino and telling all the high-rollers to go play somewhere else. So you really can't have it both ways that Bishop both caters to top kingdoms and has poor business skills.

    Also also, has the thought occurred to you that maybe Bishop doesn't have the same tools as the devs and perhaps it was either pause the game, or let it keep going with faeries completely regen'ing their stealth/mana every tick?

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    Discuss all you want but there will never be a reset. For those who suffered, suck it up. For those who gained, good for you. Life goes on. Age goes on. QQ goes on.

    2 ages in a row where there has been a screw up at OOP. Anyway a question to the devs, is restarting the game very hard in terms of coding and stuff. If it's just a click of a button I don't see why not to restart age 66 entirely. Yes there might be no compelling reason to restart but restarting doesn't have any drawbacks at all! So why not restart?

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