stealing from The U.

[Judge]

We are having the same problem with (CP kd). They say we have stolen mils of GC but refuse to name anyone. They are waving us. Larger KDs like this ruin the game by doing this. Half my KD is talking about quitting because of it. Is there any where to report this kind of harassment? They are 5x our size we couldn't hit back if we wanted to.

First of all no locations.

Secondly. You, my love, need to give not-so pathetic reasons.

[TheOne]

just saying to those that wanna FSU this age.. it's probably a bad age/time to do it.

[Chrystal Palace]

To the dude that said I wouldn't give any info on the guy that s ple our gc ibtold you it was your steward. We also are not waving you. We sent two hits on you.


To the guy that said he wants to quit. How about you don't mess with a bigger fish when that fish has done nothing but mind their own business??

We have also gave eoa cf to two other kingdoms that stole our gc. Spartans and goddesses of war. I even told them that next time they wanted gc just ask.

No to be fair I sent everyone that stole from us in the past 24 hours the same exact message. "You have 8 hours. Please prepare yourself." Now the ones that were not butt hurt asked me what the deal was and I told them. They then offered 1.5x the gc back. We declined and said send cf and next time don't steal from someone bigger.

However the guy that said I wouldn't give any info (when I actually told you it was your stew) only threatened to report me for harassing a smaller kingdom. This is after they stole 15mil gc at the very least. So I sent one if our undeads to do a raze x2. He then said it wasn't him that stole the gc. No it wasn't but your answer to your steward stealing our gc was to report us for harassment. It's your steward. You appointed him. Its your kingdom. 15 mil gc is a lot of gc from a small prov. You made your bed now lie in it.

edit: also to the guy that wants to quit, you told me i should diplo in a pm instead of threatening to raze a prov. i did not steal your gc. it is not my place to open negotiations. you stole our gc. i said now we kill off your king or stew. now it becomes your job to diplo nd try to work us down from killing off a prov to lets say just accepting a cf or something?

we are not assholes but we will not just sit by and watch our gc disappear. we know how to pump. its not our fault you do not.

[Chrystal Palace]

We are having the same problem with (cpkd) . They say we have stolen mils of GC but refuse to name anyone. They are waving us. Larger KDs like this ruin the game by doing this. Half my KD is talking about quitting because of it. Is there any where to report this kind of harassment? They are 5x our size we couldn't hit back if we wanted to.

you my friend just dont get it. i sent 1 message to everyone. the same exact message. your responce was "i have reported you to bishop for harrassing a smaller kd". i told you your stew stole at least 15 mil gc. every single kingdom i named but yours has sent us a cf and we have accepted. they will no longer steal from us because once they actually started talking instead of threatening they found out we were rather easy to get along with. so keep reporting us paly because we sure as hell are going to keep razing you. you thought 2 hits on you was a wave. just wait until we drop fort.



edit:
July 23 of YR8 551,038 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
July 23 of YR8 519,906 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
July 24 of YR8 238,319 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 2 of YR9 216,917 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 2 of YR9 211,277 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 5 of YR9 Shadowlight has revealed that Big Town (QQ guys stew) was responsible for this attack.
January 5 of YR9 11,753 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 5 of YR9 11,754 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 5 of YR9 25,188 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 5 of YR9 We have found thieves from Big Town (QQ guys stew) causing trouble within our lands!
January 5 of YR9 11,754 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 5 of YR9 We have found thieves from Big Town (QQ guys stew) causing trouble within our lands!
January 5 of YR9 16,789 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 5 of YR9 16,790 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
January 5 of YR9 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.

and this is just from the prov i am sitting. there are others he has visited that wasnt able to send their gc out and he stole far more. so you were saying?

[protector]

Train thieves - problem solved.

Ide advise warring kds to fools gold their bank stocks if they get razed. Amnesia is also a nice op to use.

Oh and AW their Mystics.

But yea , train thieves will solve your issue.

Training thieves doesn't change ****. Prior to our fight with Emeriti we ran roughly 3tpa across the board and orcs had CS up and others partially had WTs. It doesn't stop a TM. You'll get 15 ops through and 2 fails, which is about the same as if you ran 1tpa.

The only thing that stops greed is being mean. Most of these kingdoms stealing just ignore messages or pretend we're lying and will just continue. Once you start hitting them they beg for a CF.

As for opping banks. Sure, go ahead. I think at this point just about every bank prov has high enough wpa and science to make the majority of your ops fizzle. By the time you FB 50k peasants, they've already replenished

[Crazy Pete]

Yeh I don't think you'll get anywhere with trying to opp any of the larger provs in the top. If anything it will probably make things worse due to more repercussions. I think this is a good learning lesson for these smaller kingdoms that think these things go unnoticed.

Whoring land 101 attack guys that can't hit you back, same would apply to robbing imo.

[Maxin]

Can't it be that the smaller kds just "retal" with ops when top kds hit for "free" acres... Why not look at your own kd and actions first.

[Runefire]

Can't it be that the smaller kds just "retal" with ops when top kds hit for "free" acres... Why not look at your own kd and actions first.

They probably do in some cases. But the majority of the robbery I have had has been done by KD's no one from mine has hit. It is most likely due to either knowing we are a growth kingdom so we are likely stocking gold, or from threads on forums about upcoming hostilities so we may not retaliate.

[Persain]

Training thieves doesn't change ****. Prior to our fight with Emeriti we ran roughly 3tpa across the board and orcs had CS up and others partially had WTs. It doesn't stop a TM. You'll get 15 ops through and 2 fails, which is about the same as if you ran 1tpa.

The only thing that stops greed is being mean. Most of these kingdoms stealing just ignore messages or pretend we're lying and will just continue. Once you start hitting them they beg for a CF.

This a good halfer rogue can easily be on 60+ mod tpa...u dont even slow them down till u have >10% WT and a good BE. i know my kd took at least 10 million off of protectors kd before i was aware we were even stealing...mind u we cf'ed on first ask because well we shouldn't of been stealing and we dont ignor msgs.

[DM_Benjamin]

I don't know how more obvious we can be, just read our kingdom names.

We are currently dealing with a couple of provs for this

The RuGR Alliance is gaining momentum

[citadela01]

This will blow over and next age it will be back to bussines.
I known ppl get annoyed when they get robbed but no matter what you do you will never be able to sit on up to 10k gc per acre and not get robbed. And you shouldnt.
Its just not gonna happen.
Personally i allways rob big kds, but I like to think I am beeing reasonable about it with few ops a day spread over multiple kd's. Sadly puddle is shrinking. Occasionally I get spanked over it but such is life.
Big kds random me for land, I rob them ... its food chain.

[texn]

Im more into the bashing things stuff, or just slack and drink beer. That works also.

[lampost]

The top are bullies, just because they can be. Plain and simple.

My suggestion to those who want to avenge ridiculous raze killing which probably only weakens the game is to engage these so called whoring kds early on in the age (if they find their locs.) in a way that thwarts them from an opportunity to crown.

[texn]

Natural selection.

[StratOcastle]

Small kingdoms must come to the realization that former top or current top corroborators can infiltrate your kingdom. So it's a bitter ass, an enemy satellite province or an ally working the diplo excuse lever. Not always, but most of the time. The secret is to build top feeder to have negotiation strength at the table and be willing to work nicely with tops.

Because really; where did all that gold go?