Why is BB hiding a bank in vacation mode in their war?

[Meep]

Could it be that nubs have a half dozen attackers that could've broken this untrained newly explored 91 nwpa bank?

Isn't the punishment for this prov deletion?

[lampost]

Could it be that nubs have a half dozen attackers that could've broken this untrained newly explored 91 nwpa bank?

Isn't the punishment for this prov deletion?

Maybe it should be an automatic war loss.

[Meep]

Maybe it should be an automatic war loss.

Prov deletion and war loss sounds fair to me, lets not kid ourselves that a top KD would actually put a prov in "vacation" mode during a war as opposed to setting sitting, other than for the tactical advantage of you know, not having their newly explored bank get chained.

Or didn't we decide that cheaters get gangbanged around these parts?

Emeriti, this is your chance! get em!

#TheAgeIsTooLong #Yr17USRS? #****postsCommence

[lampost]

'Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion. Because of their nature, these types of circumstances are considered on a case-by-case basis. Users should avoid actions they believe are against the spirit and intent of the game.'

http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.php?title=Game_Rules

[Meep]

'Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion. Because of their nature, these types of circumstances are considered on a case-by-case basis. Users should avoid actions they believe are against the spirit and intent of the game.'

http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.php?title=Game_Rules

Looks pretty clear cut to me.

[Meep]

Given that BB are strong advocates of playing with integrity and playing by the rules, I assume that they will voluntarily forfeit the advantage gained (deleting the province), and then, as BB has also stated hundreds of times on the forum in the past year, I assume they will accept punitive damage so as to incentivise that they never engage in such cheatery again

[tetley]

Can you prove the guy isn't on vacation?

[Meep]

Can you prove the guy isn't on vacation?

Can you point out the last time any top KD ever legitimately used vacation mode in war and voluntarily put themselves down a prov instead of using sitting?

Are you really suggesting that this isn't obvious?

[lampost]

Can you prove the guy isn't on vacation?

please, PLEASE tell me you're not serious?

[khronosschoty]

please, PLEASE tell me you're not serious?

So top kingdoms are not allowed to use VM, like ever?

[lampost]

So top kingdoms are not allowed to use VM, like ever?

You also. Stop being so partisan to the extreme. Please.

[Meep]

So top kingdoms are not allowed to use VM, like ever?

You're right, it's very common for top KDs to explore banks immediately before the person goes on vacation, and it's very common for top KDs to put provs on vacation immediately before wars.

[Goodwitch]

So I do think that 99% of the time a kingdom would use sitting in war. However, have you seen the size of the kingdom they are warring? I have wondered how that is even close to what a real war could be. Maybe they agreed to not use that bank to make it a little bit more even? Not saying that is the case, just saying there are possible reasons maybe.
Guess we won't know unless one of the 2 kingdoms at war says something.

[boxerz]

Isn't it obvious that it is a war started due to to max hostility ? Why would there be any agreement at all, duh.

[tetley]

I'm not saying that he isn't abusing it, I'm more pointing out a serious flaw or contradiction in the system. The onus is obviously on someone else to actually prove he's abusing it, rather than it being on the person using it to prove they are using it legitimately. We shouldn't have a presumption of abuse. On the other hand, this makes it incredibly easy for people to abuse it as it's extremely difficult to prove such a thing. When's the last time devs actioned a prov for going into vm on its own?