Panda vs bb

[MyNameIsMatija]

Who cares about the past, time to bash some heads.

[Anri]

You mean like, when Emeriti beat you even though you had bigger banks?

I was trying to find that war on the forum but it might been when forum got reset.
That banks always win wars is not entirely true. It depends highly of the status of the banks. It remains to be seen what Floggers banks can do and how quick they can execute what needs to be done.

[markers]

Have you never paid attention to what happens when I get time to prepare and then fight someone? there's not a kingdom on the server that hasn't lost 20% of their land to me at one point or another.

Likewise, there's never been a kingdom running a buncha mid-sized provinces that hasn't farmed out to a kingdom with banks. their best case scenario is they lose their entire core and half their mid sized dudes trying to take down 1 of the 3 of our banks.

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...ighlight=rusty

Granted I surprised waved you back then but I expect a good showing from both sides ^^

[Judge]

Have you never paid attention to what happens when I get time to prepare and then fight someone? there's not a kingdom on the server that hasn't lost 20% of their land to me at one point or another.

Likewise, there's never been a kingdom running a buncha mid-sized provinces that hasn't farmed out to a kingdom with banks. their best case scenario is they lose their entire core and half their mid sized dudes trying to take down 1 of the 3 of our banks.

Tsk Tsk!

1) The last time you prepared to fight Emeriti, you lost even when you were 15% bigger?
2) I guess my first example qualifies for your second statement too?

[protector]

Fap fap fap on some egos. :)

Lol +1

[protector]

Tsk Tsk!

1) The last time you prepared to fight Emeriti, you lost even when you were 15% bigger?
2) I guess my first example qualifies for your second statement too?

Just looked at some spreadsheet from Age 64, seems to be 9-10% more land we had. NW was probably closer? Don't remember those. Your total pop was way higher than ours.
Looks funny tho. The science numbers I have saved, you have 120mil more books than us and that was excluding whatever you had stocked :P (our 143 vs your 264)

I think your 11k provs had the same popspace as our 16k. Don't remember why, but our science sucked.

[Band of Horses]

Common zauper now you are just pure evil, I thought you had you fake account to create happiness :|
You know im very insecure about this whole "coreprov" business, its new for me.

#SayNoToCyberbullies

I'd say ask Goldy how to get to attack cap but he doesn't talk to nubs. Maybe Mink can teach you if you .donate

#NoMeansNoMeansMaybe

[Meep]

Just looked at some spreadsheet from Age 64, seems to be 9-10% more land we had. NW was probably closer? Don't remember those. Your total pop was way higher than ours.
Looks funny tho. The science numbers I have saved, you have 120mil more books than us and that was excluding whatever you had stocked :P (our 143 vs your 264)

I think your 11k provs had the same popspace as our 16k. Don't remember why, but our science sucked.

It wasn't just sci, Emeriti had really high honor, I think they lost an early fight and had to play catch up most of the age? so they were whoring up after honor trickle instead of getting out ahead before it.

Like, their 11k was a marquis or duke from previous wars if I remember correctly

[Band of Horses]

Just looked at some spreadsheet from Age 64, seems to be 9-10% more land we had. NW was probably closer? Don't remember those. Your total pop was way higher than ours.
Looks funny tho. The science numbers I have saved, you have 120mil more books than us and that was excluding whatever you had stocked :P (our 143 vs your 264)

I think your 11k provs had the same popspace as our 16k. Don't remember why, but our science sucked.

They ran extreme on 200k def 10k+ provs, which baited razes from a certain kd and resulting farm war. You ran 400k def on your provs. They also had a huge honor lead attributing to that pop gap.

[Band of Horses]

It wasn't just sci, Emeriti had really high honor, I think they lost an early fight and had to play catch up most of the age? so they were whoring up after honor trickle instead of getting out ahead before it.

Like, their 11k was a marquis or duke from previous wars if I remember correctly

I think the majority of the marquis and dukes was after the war with bb. But they were like #3 honor the whole age or something close. They lost to Mythos oop or was it Rusty? Got some free CFs from the leaders of the early age, Sims5 Divinity and Pew (LOL what a top 3), BB had lost to Divinity (Come on flogger)

[Judge]

Just looked at some spreadsheet from Age 64, seems to be 9-10% more land we had. NW was probably closer? Don't remember those. Your total pop was way higher than ours.
Looks funny tho. The science numbers I have saved, you have 120mil more books than us and that was excluding whatever you had stocked :P (our 143 vs your 264)

I think your 11k provs had the same popspace as our 16k. Don't remember why, but our science sucked.

I dont remember the exact percentage of gap but it was around 12% - 15% and i just took a higher number..

And you are right.. Our 11k had same military compared to your 16k but you had 2 more banks bigger than that 16k..
Now as Meep and BOH said, we had high honor from the 3-4 wars that we had.. (i still cannot multiquote :( )

but those were the good times.. When dorje didnt have a + sign!!

[texn]

May the best Viking win. W O P W O P.

[Mike^]

zauper = BOH, it all makes sense !!!

[protector]

It wasn't just sci, Emeriti had really high honor, I think they lost an early fight and had to play catch up most of the age? so they were whoring up after honor trickle instead of getting out ahead before it.

Like, their 11k was a marquis or duke from previous wars if I remember correctly

It was mostly science and probably to a lesser extend their added honor. Still, mostly science :p

They ran extreme on 200k def 10k+ provs, which baited razes from a certain kd and resulting farm war. You ran 400k def on your provs. They also had a huge honor lead attributing to that pop gap.

Yea probably lol

I think the majority of the marquis and dukes was after the war with bb. But they were like #3 honor the whole age or something close. They lost to Mythos oop or was it Rusty? Got some free CFs from the leaders of the early age, Sims5 Divinity and Pew (LOL what a top 3), BB had lost to Divinity (Come on flogger)

Bad prep, or rather bad diplo and bad expectations on floggers end. EOWCF was pretty beast, think he undervalued it. Also should have just CFed when they asked ;p
And yea I think meep's right. They had a bunch of counts and a few marquis pre-war.

I dont remember the exact percentage of gap but it was around 12% - 15% and i just took a higher number..

And you are right.. Our 11k had same military compared to your 16k but you had 2 more banks bigger than that 16k..
Now as Meep and BOH said, we had high honor from the 3-4 wars that we had.. (i still cannot multiquote :( )

but those were the good times.. When dorje didnt have a + sign!!

What where the start sizes then? I have 203xxx (us) and 186xxx (you) on spreadsheet.
I also see that was JoRo's super awesome Pinky & Brain theme we used! :p

[Felonious]

It doesnt matter. We only won that age becoz I intra razed Judge. It pleased the gods.