Dragon slay

[Crazyguy]

It doesn't seem to me that dragon points are adjusted to make up for the increase in specs points....... are dragons totally needed this age? I slayed our 1st dragon myself......

[dieaready]

dragon hp is based on kd nw, so you shouldnt notice much of a difference. they are slightly easier to kill.

[Thunder TA]

Dragons are always needed. After the first couple if your working them correct they are not near as easy to kill :)

[Malficient]

Dragons are needed later in war after ppl are more depleted and you've hurt their Econ. But at the start dragons seem to be more burdensome than before, bang for your buck that is. It's almost worth not sending a drake until day 3 and using that gc to build I a and rebuild slay troops. They are adjusted via nw but they aren't as powerful now compared to slaying power. I expect this to change next age.

[ryvrdrgn14]

They are definitely easier to get rid of. Just throw them to make the enemy lose troops faster.

[Madchess]

well have you ever considdered that maybe they where a bit hard to get rid of before and now they just adjusted that? 20k troops is a bit much if you are hard pressed, with the changes it simply means you need to rely more on war strategy and less on sending dragons until the opponents can't slay them anymore. Dragons can still win wars, but you'll need to have that extra bit of resurces to make sure your opponents have a dragon and you don't. If you have that extra bit of resurces you either came into war more loaded, or you already won ecconomy wise.

[Engman]

If you assume 2 kds same size (say 2mil to make the math easy) and one throws a dragon at the other, it costs them nw*1.25 = ~2.5mil gc to fund the dragon. The formula also states that the dragons health is nw/~44 which gives us roughly 45k points. Defensive specialists have 6 in strength, meaning it will take 7500 specialists to slay a dragon. Each specialist costs 350gc which puts the gc cost of slaying with nothing but basic specialists to around 2.6mil gc. This seems fair, slightly more resources spent to slay than to fund one.

The problem arises when you instead assume that these 7.5k specialists are trained in fortfied or eowcf and we assume a 35% avg discount for each specialist (which seems reasonable), then the price of slaying said dragon was instead 1.7mil gc. Add on top of that the fact that most kingdoms will use overpop to slay dragons, meaning it's not really a cost at all, its a relief and instead of having a large number of soldiers floating about you instead make good use of the units original value in slaying, for free. All in all leads to the conclusion that slaying this age is indeed significantly cheaper and easier to kill, almost to the point where funding dragons is less valuable than just straight up training units and throwing them at your opponents dragon instead (if they bother sending one).

This age: 2.5mil gc to fund, 2.6mil gc to slay
Last age: 2.5mil gc to fund, 3.9mil gc to slay

The net worth lost assuming you use def specs only is the same as last age, but the gold spent obtaining/retraining the lost nw is a lot less.

Now you can't just look at the gc spent on funding/slaying to figure out the value of a dragon, the timing is everything when it comes to dragons and a well placed sapphire/ruby can still be useful, i would argue that gold/emerald dragons that require a lot of air time to be valuable are fairly weak this age. Dragons are significantly weaker this age, and instant slaying doesn't really take a kingdom with solid communication and activity anymore, just takes 1 deep chained attacker and a few T/Ms. it's simply a bit too easy and it took away something from active and coordinated kingdoms who could pride themselves on fast slays through fast communication and response.

TL;DR Waaah dragons are too easy/cheap to kill

[RedPanda]

it is easier now
before it was your land that held most of your NW so even if you dont have the troops you still stuck with a large dragon being most of it was land NW.
While now, with higher NW troops, your troops hold more NW than your land so you at least have the troops.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Just call Tyrion Lannister, he'll take care of all your dragon problems.

[Rizen]

Halfers vs dragons.

[RedPanda]

Halfers vs dragons.

that was always the case even before the changes.