CR vs Your GF on Fire

[Paradise]

7 sitters in war would not be a big issue that make its way to forum, if it's not CR who doing it, right? ^^. I know some kingdoms encountered this during holiday season like xmas or new year. There's something called life and family too.

Is GF expecting CR not to set sitter so they can win the war "easily" thinking this is the age off for CR? What's wrong with "a kingdom" using a provided in-game feature to win?

[Elldallan]

7 sitters in war would not be a big issue that make its way to forum, if it's not CR who doing it, right? ^^. I know some kingdoms encountered this during holiday season like xmas or new year. There's something called life and family too.

Is GF expecting CR not to set sitter so they can win the war "easily" thinking this is the age off for CR? What's wrong with "a kingdom" using a provided in-game feature to win?

Yes from the forum whining GF's seems to clearly have expected CR to give them the win on a silver platter pretty please. CR seems to have rallied and fought back, so now sitting is cheating and unfair because they're not getting the farmout GF's feel they deserve it would seem.

"Handjobbing"...do explain. Do you mean supporting another KD that did not hold the obvious advantages? Supporting the under dogs? If that is you're definition of "handjobbing" thats rather lame. I envy the GF's taking on a fight they had a crappy chance of winning. Let alone abusing the yet legal sitting option on 7 provs. Hope sitting doesn't run out on your players..

Supporting the underdogs is fine, whining that the opponent is somehow morally cheating is not. They picked the fight, so they get to fight it. If it's not the fight they expected then they should have planned better. it's 25v25, that is fair, 25v18 is what would have been unfair.

Since the thread seems fond of making comparisons I'll toss this one out there, All this whining about sitting and cheating is like the spoiled little kid in the checkout line crying his lungs out because he didn't get the bonbon he wanted and just generally annoying everybody within hearing distance while his parents stand around pretending like it's raining.

[khronosschoty]

Yes from the forum whining GF's seems to clearly have expected CR to give them the win on a silver platter pretty please. CR seems to have rallied and fought back, so now sitting is cheating and unfair because they're not getting the farmout GF's feel they deserve it would seem.



Supporting the underdogs is fine, whining that the opponent is somehow morally cheating is not. They picked the fight, so they get to fight it. If it's not the fight they expected then they should have planned better. it's 25v25, that is fair, 25v18 is what would have been unfair.

Since the thread seems fond of making comparisons I'll toss this one out there, All this whining about sitting and cheating is like the spoiled little kid in the checkout line crying his lungs out because he didn't get the bonbon he wanted and just generally annoying everybody within hearing distance while his parents stand around pretending like it's raining.

Agreed!

[xXxFoBxXx]

Yes from the forum whining GF's seems to clearly have expected CR to give them the win on a silver platter pretty please. CR seems to have rallied and fought back, so now sitting is cheating and unfair because they're not getting the farmout GF's feel they deserve it would seem.


Supporting the underdogs is fine, whining that the opponent is somehow morally cheating is not. They picked the fight, so they get to fight it. If it's not the fight they expected then they should have planned better. it's 25v25, that is fair, 25v18 is what would have been unfair.

Since the thread seems fond of making comparisons I'll toss this one out there, All this whining about sitting and cheating is like the spoiled little kid in the checkout line crying his lungs out because he didn't get the bonbon he wanted and just generally annoying everybody within hearing distance while his parents stand around pretending like it's raining.

No one is whining about losing a war! Why not ask CR about the compliments and thanks for giving a war to get the age going again for the kd (many are not as active anymore until hostile was given by CR). And this was because not many kingdoms the same size would war them. Maybe before people start saying GF is whining, they should really reread the post. The only mention is whether or not Utopian should change the BABYSITTING option to allow for only 3 or so provinces, instead of 7. This would benefit us all - point being, why is the Vacation Mode locked in the same way to only a certain amount of provinces?

Also, the mention of a lost war was sent to umajon911 in-game BEFORE hostility even started. This is how he knows that it was understood by GF that the war was already lost before it had even started. It was just to see how good a top kingdom was so that one can prepare correctly in the future. How does one get better if they don't challenge the best to understand what it will take???

I'm always confused but it appears the top kd think that individuals deserve respect. As a top kd, the respect is given that you are good and coordinated at this game. Where the respect is lost is in your leadership much like the post below. A mid-tier kingdom sends ingame messages to opponent king to wish them well in the coming war and thank them for a war. The opposing kingdom replies much like below in a forum (not even ingame)... How do people go about respecting that type of person and individual?

And honestly, congrats to CR. They did as good as it was expected - just very surprised at the amount of sitters... So anyone that thinks there is whining, there isn't. Just would like Utopian to clean up the sitter option for the entire server!

...Also you know you're speaking about a kingdom that just completed a 3 peat (won the crown 3 times in a row)... something that hasn't been done in 12 years? Show a little respect.

...You're the same guy that has been spamming us as if we're supposed to get drinks and add each other on facebook after the war. I don't like you and shut the **** up. I am not mad that you are "challenging the greats." I'm am mad that you have 3 X's encompassing your stupid nickname like a 12 year old...

Surprising how old people act when they are behind a screen... =)

BTW, the king read and seen Dogly and Meeps reply, so the Kingdom name was changed to see how you whiners would react. Thanks for the reaction because that is what makes this game fun! =)

[Araqiel]

Goooooooo Godly!

The ass whooping is real, the salt is hilarious. They have been bottom feeding all age, glad to see this vulture session has backfired.

Pleased to see CR got rid of that silly Simian.

[Elldallan]

No one is whining about losing a war! Why not ask CR about the compliments and thanks for giving a war to get the age going again for the kd (many are not as active anymore until hostile was given by CR). And this was because not many kingdoms the same size would war them. Maybe before people start saying GF is whining, they should really reread the post. The only mention is whether or not Utopian should change the BABYSITTING option to allow for only 3 or so provinces, instead of 7. This would benefit us all - point being, why is the Vacation Mode locked in the same way to only a certain amount of provinces?

Oh? Yes you complain about sitting a lot, but since this isn't the proper place to whine about such things(Hint: try the suggestions forum) it can only be assumed that you're whining about it because of how it impacts the war, ie 25v25 instead of 18v25, ie loosing.

Wow. Been playing for ages and it still amazes me how top kingdoms running multi can get away with cheating yet other players can be deleted in an instant

I'll show a little respect once this "3 peat" kingdom didn't have to rely on sitting in wars.

Multi vs mass sitting. Don't see the difference other than sitting is an option for Utopia to sell credits to make money. Hence as I mentioned earlier - pay to win

"Why would anyone multi when you can just legally set sitter?"
You openly admit that you need sitters to win that war? That's basically being a kid asking your mom for money for a pay to win game. Exploiting the stupid sitter option cause your kingdom isn't active enough his hilarious. Your kingdom may be top ten but really more like farms.

This is pretty much constant whining, and considering it's a new account and the person has only posted in this very thread it's fairly obvious he's in GF's. But lets keep going.

I guess they aren't all multi, but there should be a limit on how many can actually go into Sitter mode. I do question the 2nd through 5th provinces. Looks like one player tbh.

Dogly,
You must pride yourself on your Utopia social standing huh? Not sure why the name calling etc to other Utopian players. Learn to respect others, but with a picture like that, I understand where you come from. That guy will make my vote liberal for the first time in my life! Anyways, you are using Multi to beat his kingdom, just an approved type of Multi-ing (one you pay for) lol. So don't go around saying you didn't Multi, when you did. However, that's ok, since it is a loophole in the game. Utopia should really use this example to drop the amount of sitters to max 3 or something...

It's not a loophole, it's an intended function.

"He" called you cheaters, not "you" called us cheaters. Anyways, it's not cheating because it is a perfectly acceptable mean to get people away when needed. Abuse is just the problem, but it's still not cheating. You know, its like the US Welfare System. People don't work and take in money, but it's not really wrong that they do that, the system lets them. So it's legit and not seen correctly amongst many, but many still do it because it's legal to stay on welfare for life. So yes, I agree with you that you are not cheating and that his kingdom just ran into your kingdom who took advantage of an acceptable way to multi.

Your comparisons with a welfare system borders on insane troll logic, but I attribute that to ignorance from not living in a nation with an actual welfare system.

Again, lets refer back to the Welfare System. I never said that no one is supposed to use the Welfare System, it's just OVERLY abused. Let's do a scenerio:

Woman (A) has 1 kid and she is not married and has a low paying job. She continues to bust her butt to get money to pay for her rent and strives to get her kid up everyday for school to have hope of making a better life for himself. Kid grows up and gets a good paying job and woman A gets off welfare and kid gets taxed and helps society.

Women (B) has 1 kid and she is not married and has a low paying job. She figures out that she can have 6 more kids and get more money from the government. She goes and sleeps with more guys and pops out another 6 kids who have deadbeat dads and the cycle repeats.
Moral: Don't be woman B

Wow, where did that one come from.
That's like me saying: Prostitution is OK, because you paid for the service. Two subjects that had nothing to do with your comment.
The example of the Welfare System is about the reflection of abusing a system.

Here's your own posts which are almost universally moaning about how using sitting is abuse, this doesn't really have a place in the news section, thus it's moaning about how CR is somehow playing unfair and "abusing the system" if you want to change the system then go make a suggestion in the proper forum rather than whine here where it's not going to get picked up. In fact Swagger(as opposed to you) did go and make a thread, which is constructive at least.

This doesn't even include your comments that were deleted for breaking the forum rules of conduct.

[khronosschoty]

7 sitters in war would not be a big issue that make its way to forum, if it's not CR who doing it, right? ^^. I know some kingdoms encountered this during holiday season like xmas or new year. There's something called life and family too.

Is GF expecting CR not to set sitter so they can win the war "easily" thinking this is the age off for CR? What's wrong with "a kingdom" using a provided in-game feature to win?

^ this.