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    Jesus ****ing christ.

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    Hillary Clinton is so corrupt she had to buy the DNC chair woman. Maybe she sent Bill over to bribe her. Kinda like she did in the email investigation. Haha

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    I would think people understand by now the GOP is utterly bankrupt as a party and should have disbanded a while back. Only reason they are getting anywhere is due to rampant vote suppression, gerrymandering, Democrat incompetence, and corrupt regs that basically prohibit a third party from growing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    Bankruptcy is a tool used to make money in some instances in business. Trump is a self made man that has built a massive wealth and business. What has Hillary Clinton ever done that's great or even good. This woman is completely worthless. She can't even take care of her husbands needs. ;)
    So Trump let companies go bankrupt on purpose to make money? So other people got stuck with worthless debts? And somehow that makes him a good president? And you hope you won't be the next person he screws over.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landro View Post
    So Trump let companies go bankrupt on purpose to make money? So other people got stuck with worthless debts? And somehow that makes him a good president? And you hope you won't be the next person he screws over.........
    First off if you actually listen to Donald Trump he admits bankruptcy laws are broken and need to be changed. Same with trade deals and regulations. I don't have time to explain bankruptcy laws and how they can be used to make money. But what I will say is in the state of USA finances it might be smart to have someone who knows how to play the system to get us out of the Mess Bush, Clintons and Obama got us into. I can assure you all Hilary Clinton will do is bury us deeper and stick her hand in the cookie jar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    First off if you actually listen to Donald Trump he admits bankruptcy laws are broken and need to be changed. Same with trade deals and regulations. I don't have time to explain bankruptcy laws and how they can be used to make money. But what I will say is in the state of USA finances it might be smart to have someone who knows how to play the system to get us out of the Mess Bush, Clintons and Obama got us into. I can assure you all Hilary Clinton will do is bury us deeper and stick her hand in the cookie jar.
    I wasn't sure if you were serious or just trolling, but it seems you're serious.
    So we have this guy who's willing to abuse the law for his personal benefit and you're willing to trust him with nukes........ (yes, yes, I know. Clinton isn't trustworthy either.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landro View Post
    I wasn't sure if you were serious or just trolling, but it seems you're serious.
    So we have this guy who's willing to abuse the law for his personal benefit and you're willing to trust him with nukes........ (yes, yes, I know. Clinton isn't trustworthy either.)
    I fail to see how 4 casino's going bankrupt has anything to do with trustworthines. He had no control over the economy. He didn't sell our jobs to China and Mexico by passing Nafta. That was Bill Clinton, Hilary Clinton and Bush. Yet you want to elect a woman who helped destroy this country. Keep throwing out random baseless insults, because that's all Democrats have. Hilary Clinton has always been in public service and name one thing she has done good for anybody. Please just one thing she has done for anyone but herself. I bet you can't. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    I fail to see how 4 casino's going bankrupt has anything to do with trustworthines. He had no control over the economy. He didn't sell our jobs to China and Mexico by passing Nafta. That was Bill Clinton, Hilary Clinton and Bush. Yet you want to elect a woman who helped destroy this country. Keep throwing out random baseless insults, because that's all Democrats have. Hilary Clinton has always been in public service and name one thing she has done good for anybody. Please just one thing she has done for anyone but herself. I bet you can't. :)
    They are Both horrible candidates

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    "Helped destroy our country"

    Stop watching fox news. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noobium View Post
    ... There is no credible third party...
    http://www.jill2016.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by pathetic sheep View Post
    Cruz's father fought for Castro. Helped overthrow Batista. Was more like pointing a rifle and using the finger to pull the trigger. [Or maybe giving other people rifles and encouraging them to point it. Depends on which version.] He also immigrated to the US and then publicly apologized for raising money for communists. Claimed he did not know Castro was a communist.


    "Vote your conscience" is definitely the right message IMO.
    and then his younger sister fought against Castro and was tortured. But the nuance isn't lost on me. ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by noobium View Post
    Could have, but he forgot that the big money wing of the GOP doesn't exactly love him, and there was a lot of #NeverCruz in the GOP; helping to unleash the dogs against Jeb? solidified the GOPe's hate of the man, leading to that utterly moronic 4-way voting strategy shit. Really the whole GOPe is to blame for their years of stupidity and hamfisted attempts to control the primary process through the most convoluted method possible, but Cruz is the X-Factor that really allowed Trumpism to gain traction. He really had to be ready to knife Trump in the back hard and come out with hit after hit to attack at his base. The attack ads he did run were some pretty weak sauce that played well to groups he already locked up, but failed to slice mini-Hitler's throat like they could have.
    While I agree the 4 way split certainly didn't help matters, IMO the bigger reasons for the subsequent outcome and the worst possible Republican nomination in its entire Party's history are in my view the political polarization that's been going on in so many countries for so long (the U.S. is not alone in this), the historical shift of the party, the prolonged economic downturn and slashing of working and middle class income that's been going on for so long. In such an atmosphere there is ample room for a tin-pot dictator to grow powerful, where it doesn't matter who has the best clarity of mind but who has the biggest pottymouth.

    1) If you can't know what you are and what you stand for, 2) if you can't know what to expect for the people you claim to represent or can claim no better future for them, 3) if you don't know how to see benefits in the climate or environment, 4) if you have no selfdiscipline, then what good are you as party? A: Nothing! You are entirely worthless as a party. By the way, the same thing can be said of the Democrats and the vast majority of established political parties in Europe. The only reason Hillary is ahead in most polls is because she is not insane. At least she hasn't got Narcissistic Personality Disorder like her adversary. In my view that's not exactly taking benefit of the situation, it sheer luck, or rather misfortune for the Republicans.

    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    Bankruptcy is a tool used to make money in some instances in business.
    To state that bankruptcy is a valid business tool, means you have the sense of a tool. ;) Had Trump been a succesfull business man, which he clearly isn't, he would have been worth a lot more than he is now, without the need of filing for several bankruptcies, giving into the account the starting capital he had. To state he's selfmade is a clear and blatant lie. And the latter is just plain insulting. Such a statement must have come a from a man who lacks the funds to buy his own energizer bunny, because he took Trump's business advise and filed for bankruptcy aswell as divorce after he raped his ex. ;)

    The problem though for the U.S. is, there really is no credible third option. I mean come on look at the two other candidates, the Greens, or the Libertarians. Particularly the latter are anarchists in the making, just waiting for their act of the deed. You can't be serious with those. And the first, well its single policy and that's stating it crudely but nicely.

    Which is why I have such respect for what Cruz did. I don't agree with Obama at all that its hollow. In fact because a disaster like Trump is taking place in his own party, makes it that more difficult. While I agree with Obama that Trump is unfit for the job, to make that second statement afterwards about the party is in my view yet another symptom of political polarization and its Obama at his most weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    Bankruptcy is a tool used to make money in some instances in business.
    When a company goes bankrupt, creditors lose their money. So you're not making money; you're taking it from your creditors. Almost like stealing except it's legal (sort of). Is this really the kind of behaviour that fits a potential future president?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pathetic sheep View Post
    Like I said, no credible third party.

    The problem ultimately is that no one has a coherent ideology outside of neoliberalism to present, save for one - the socialists. For a great many reasons, the socialists will never get anywhere, the ruling elite of America will resort to violence to make sure that doesn't happen. Neoliberalism cannot tolerate dissent, and it will only get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noobium View Post
    Like I said, no credible third party.
    The problem ultimately is that no one has a coherent ideology outside of neoliberalism to present
    IMO socalled neoliberalism isn't a coherent ideology, it is conservative dogma. As for socialists never getting anywhere I agree wholeheartedly. It's not the violence that's the problem. Communism just doesn't work, because it is as inconsistent and inconsequential as conservative dogma. Any socalled ideology that claims to be able to make an utopia, makes a dystopia in reality and is a dogma in reality!
    Corruption is a serious impediment to civil liberties.

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    Tax Breaks for Billionairs

    Ted Cruz is same as it ever was republican. Big Tax Breaks for Billionaires. They are one trick ponies. As a "born again" Christian Cruz wants to lead the world to Armageddon to pave the way for Jesus to return. Watch his dad's youtube sermons.

    H. Bush 41 raised taxes to pay for 1st Iraq war and lost his job. Best President in 25 years. Dollar Bill Clinton raised taxes more on the rich and balanced the budget for first time since FDR. Even had a budget surplus. Second best president in 25 years.

    George W cut taxes on the wealthiest Americans and cut Government jobs to counter that revenue loss. Government jobs? School teachers, repairmen, staff, and administrators jobs gone, massive Federal aid to local school districts dried up. First Responders Police, Corrections, Firemen, EMS gone, Federal aid to these most important civil servants cut severely. Look where the lesser training has taken us. Scared understaffed cops shooting first. Infrastructure, Power Grid, Highways and Bridges, National Parks, Municipal water systems all in decay. Also the support and sales staff to supply the people with these government jobs dwindled. Fewer people buying cars, houses, appliances. Fewer people able to afford lawn care, plumbers, painters. This led to the housing bubble, insurance, automobile, and bank crashes. The 17 trillion dollars tax payers had to bailout using the Fed.

    So the elite get richer and white lower middle class Americans are in the dog house. Inequality of income. These white lower middle class "White Trash" are the largest supporters of Trump. They are less educated and angry. Why the anger? They no longer have their protected status. They are now in the same boat with their Negro and Mexican neighbors. White Trash is what built America at the start. The King of England rounded up vagrants, thieves, criminals, whores, the dregs of Britain and said go to America or to prison. Yes slaves were added but that was later. So White Trash Americans have lost their status and that's what "Make America Great Again" aims for. These White Trash want a wall to keep out Mexicans, and deport those here. White Trash want no more Muslims. Its anger directed at any group that's not them.

    Fox noise is responsible for all this. All they preach is hate the Negro president. Hate Hillary. hate hate hate. AND Tax Breaks for Billionaires. I am a social democrat. I want socialized medical care. I can not pay my huge medical bills. No where else is Health a for profit institution. This propaganda from Fox is little different from that Hitler used to enslave Europe.

    noobiam is correct 100% also, vote suppression, gerrymandering, Democrat incompetence, and corrupt regulations ^^.

    ps I am White Trash, extremely poor, I just have a brain and think for myself. I don't need a foreign national like Rupert Murdock telling me how to think.
    Last edited by Skank; 07-08-2016 at 18:06.
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