Why does intra Rob The Towers not destroy runes?

[Meep]

Step 1). Build extra towers
Step 2). Release thieves
Step 3). Have poor province max send RTT
Step 4). Aid runes back
Step 5). Repeat
Step 6). Functionally infinite TB space!

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Discuss and stay tuned this week for round 3 of 'why the hell do game mechanics allow this?' later this week.

[Korp]

You came up with this idea now?

[Meep]

You came up with this idea now?

Nope, have seen it used to clear TB space for explores or provs that need pumped

[Shockwave]

Step 1). Build extra towers
Step 2). Release thieves
Step 3). Have poor province max send RTT
Step 4). Aid runes back
Step 5). Repeat
Step 6). Functionally infinite TB space!

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Discuss and stay tuned this week for round 3 of 'why the hell do game mechanics allow this?' later this week.

You realize this has been happening for like 16 years right? Or as long as tb has been around, which happened a long, long time ago.

[Meep]

You realize this has been happening for like 16 years right? Or as long as tb has been around, which happened a long, long time ago.

I do, and it seems completely contrary to the intended cap on aid without tax and the fact that intra-robbing gold destroys gold.

So it, much like defecting to farm, seems obviously to be an unintended use of game mechanics.

A small prov can clear tens of times over its NW in positive TB space to receive aid using this, which is something clearly not intended.

[Shockwave]

How do you know it was not intended? Maybe it was left that way exactly for that reason? You're making assumptions :P

[Meep]

How do you know it was not intended? Maybe it was left that way exactly for that reason? You're making assumptions :P

Why does aid tax exist?

Does it make sense that there should be an incredibly simple and not officially documented means to completely circumvent aid tax?

Why does everyone try and obliviously defend things that are so blatantly unintentional?

[Korp]

I do, and it seems completely contrary to the intended cap on aid without tax and the fact that intra-robbing gold destroys gold.

So it, much like defecting to farm, seems obviously to be an unintended use of game mechanics.

A small prov can clear tens of times over its NW in positive TB space to receive aid using this, which is something clearly not intended.

Intra robbing doesnt destroy gold...

[Meep]

Intra robbing doesnt destroy gold...

You sure about that? I'm reasonably sure it does take more gold than you get, but I might be wrong.

Also, rob the vaults is NW-weighted, RTT is not, so you can rob towers from your cow but not rob gold from it anywhere near as effectively.

[Korp]

You sure about that?

Just tried it out, you are thinking about plunder. runes are just used cause its easier to produce huge amounts of it and the trade value is good enough.

[Binar]

intra robbing GC does in fact destroy portions of the gains


May 23 of YR13 1,152,889 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!

Early indications show that our operation was a success. Our thieves have returned with 1,037,600 gold coins.

[astron]

Just tried it out, you are thinking about plunder. runes are just used cause its easier to produce huge amounts of it and the trade value is good enough.

You are wrong. A portion of GC does get destroyed. The losses shown on the robbed prov will not equal the one shown on the thief op.

[StratOcastle]

When I was regularly playing table top games there were always holes/meta. It came to pass over years of gaming and maturing that it wasn't worth exploiting because it ruined the game. If the game master can't challenge the team and the team operates totally illogically to real world examples, it's just work.

We had developed into such a dynamic team that we honestly didn't need the meta. Then as now, I see these commonly exploited mechanics and I play Utopia with self imposed handicaps. Didn't come here to ruin the game and I don't feel outgunned by the kingdoms that exploit the meta.

There are a number of mechanical geniuses that find chasing meta the point of the game. Despite this view I can tell you from my experience and wisdom that it's an empty goal. You'll feel you've defeated something, but all you've done is wasted your time. There's nothing to return to. Unlike my life which wasn't wrought with social media hypnotism, most of you have a trial ahead. Live in dreamland or be alone.

There's always someone to talk to, but you'll be erasing a point of nostalgia in your life. I can always return to my D&D books and the lineage of friends and family who play. Don't pretend there's always a font of mingling out there. As you age it begins to decline, for good or bad.

Utopia has been good to many of you and you should spend your ages being good to it. Like I said, I don't need to random, I don't need bots. You don't either.

[Korp]

intra robbing GC does in fact destroy portions of the gains


May 23 of YR13 1,152,889 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!

Early indications show that our operation was a success. Our thieves have returned with 1,037,600 gold coins.

You are wrong. A portion of GC does get destroyed. The losses shown on the robbed prov will not equal the one shown on the thief op.

Figured thats been a display thing, but it seems a portion are destroyed when robbing gold or bushels intra kd not runes. The more you know.. etc.

[Shockwave]

I think this all stems back to what you enjoy about the game. If you enjoy chasing the meta, then so be it. If you enjoy warring war. If you enjoy land crowns, go for land crowns. Its not abuae, its just a different way of accomplishing your goals in the game.

Everyone screams about it being unfair or against the "spirit of the game", but in reality the spirit of the game is up to the people. Just because you think it wasn't intended, doesn't mean the game designers thought that way. Its completely possible that there was something instituted to be able to overcome a hindrance...say getting destroyed in war, where you received large amounts of aid to keep your prov going.