CR Tripple Hostiles and then talks Smack

[TheOne]

hi

can someone pm the locations of all the top kingdoms.

just created a province... and i wanna have fun!

[flogger]

and 3 of those 4 ages were won by who again?

the kingdom tat employed offense.

I mean you can assume its a solid strat but it depends on factors such as having CFs pre age or not having any form of competition close by.

More power to you if you get it to work... but dont cry when you get molly whomped oop if you try it.

You can say you aren't a ghetto, but when the usual suggestions to help ghettos fight back is carry offense and a known top kingdom isn't carrying offense it begs to questions why are they not following the advice given to the ghettos they pray on latter in the age. Risk/Reward is one thing but to assume because you are say "Emeriti" that you dont have to worry about said risk and just have reward is beyond cocky.

If you don't realize what emeriti's strat is the past 2 ages is the best strat for crowning, you're bad at utopia. We kinda did what they did last age, but they did it better, and both of us were #1/#2 by a mile (which is why we ended up CF'ing OOP). They coulda beaten us had they really wanted to fight us, but we could at least put up a fight. No one else on the server could even put up a fight. When we warred the kd with offense 1-2 days OOP we had 12 unbreakables, and said "offense" kingdom played their strategy perfectly.

I do agree with you though, if you do it, you can't/shouldnt claim "hostiles" You're basically shooting up a bank earlier than everyone else and should expect to get hit by everyone else if you send up a bank undefended. The reason its the best strategy is even if you get hit, you'll still win vs whomever hits you if they give you a button cause fort is overpowered OOP. You need the extreme scenario of this age where 3 kingdoms hit you simultaneously to even make it close, but you'd still probably win the OOP war because you aren't wasting troops on ospecs, and are maximizing your econ.

Its not shady if everyone independently decides to wave you OOP, probably is shady if you're all discussing it on IRC and coordinating. All top kingdoms race to hit the "Farms" oop, and you are making yourself a farm for a few hours by doing said strategy. Had emeriti actually called in the favor to wave CR I'd probably side with CR on the "whose being more lame" game. They're the best 2 kds on the server, with opposite strategies, woulda been fun to see who won. Same time if I'm emeriti and get hit by 3 kds in 2 hours, hard not to think its not coordinated.


the game change to neutralize the strategy would be no fort in YR0. Given emeriti won the crown last age, and CR just was trying to get EoA CF out of it in a slack age, a grudge over it doesn't make much sense. Emeriti shoulda CF'd if their only goal was crown, since at that point they had the intel that anyone who could really beat them was having an off age.

[Elit]

hi

can someone pm the locations of all the top kingdoms.

just created a province... and i wanna have fun!

Can you define TOP kingdoms? :P

[EvilEndures]

Can you define TOP kingdoms? :P

Ones that start the serious forum drama? ;)

[JusticeLeague]

how long does Emeriti have to the button for the wave on them earlier by CR?

[Elit]

Ones that start the serious forum drama? ;)

Its very accurate definition :)

how long does Emeriti have to the button for the wave on them earlier by CR?

Its don't matter. CR are in war. OOP wars are often long but ever if its min time + max post war time make it 5 days. So Emerity need to stop his grow for 5 days to stay in range with CR. Lets not forget BinBin know how arranged wars work. Take just 1 minute for start it. So its can turn he need to wait another 5-6 days.

In short Emerity have long way to go for able to push button...

[Tamiya]

11 pages of replies to read in only 24 hours.. lol

[nickey]

Gooo CR!

CR in whoring ages used to go heavy on offense OOP nothing odd in that or slamming offenseless kd...

[Cheetzy]

Less QQ more Pew Pew.

[sexual harassment panda]

If you don't realize what emeriti's strat is the past 2 ages is the best strat for crowning, you're bad at utopia. We kinda did what they did last age, but they did it better, and both of us were #1/#2 by a mile (which is why we ended up CF'ing OOP). They coulda beaten us had they really wanted to fight us, but we could at least put up a fight. No one else on the server could even put up a fight. When we warred the kd with offense 1-2 days OOP we had 12 unbreakables, and said "offense" kingdom played their strategy perfectly.

I do agree with you though, if you do it, you can't/shouldnt claim "hostiles" You're basically shooting up a bank earlier than everyone else and should expect to get hit by everyone else if you send up a bank undefended. The reason its the best strategy is even if you get hit, you'll still win vs whomever hits you if they give you a button cause fort is overpowered OOP. You need the extreme scenario of this age where 3 kingdoms hit you simultaneously to even make it close, but you'd still probably win the OOP war because you aren't wasting troops on ospecs, and are maximizing your econ.

Its not shady if everyone independently decides to wave you OOP, probably is shady if you're all discussing it on IRC and coordinating. All top kingdoms race to hit the "Farms" oop, and you are making yourself a farm for a few hours by doing said strategy. Had emeriti actually called in the favor to wave CR I'd probably side with CR on the "whose being more lame" game. They're the best 2 kds on the server, with opposite strategies, woulda been fun to see who won. Same time if I'm emeriti and get hit by 3 kds in 2 hours, hard not to think its not coordinated.


the game change to neutralize the strategy would be no fort in YR0. Given emeriti won the crown last age, and CR just was trying to get EoA CF out of it in a slack age, a grudge over it doesn't make much sense. Emeriti shoulda CF'd if their only goal was crown, since at that point they had the intel that anyone who could really beat them was having an off age.

Even when emeriti eventually trained up they were in deep trouble, with or without fortified being "OP" early game. CR had multiple provs who could double anyone in the kd with one who could triple. By 12h, emeriti didn't even have offense to break in return because they had to focus on thieves or they'd bleed gold. By 24 hours I'm assuming they'd be able to break in return, but they'd still be trading single taps for doubles and have already bled two waves worth, negating whatever econ advantage they had.

And CR doesn't even have a setup. Some random defected at OOP and everyone was allowed to pick what they want. With a proper whoring setup, it would have been even more trouble for emeriti. Having no setup was the only thing what could have made this close.

Anyway, it should be noted to the 2-3 people from emeriti who have been crying all thread that pretty much every person with no skin in the race is siding with CR on this. It's cute how absies manage to cry foul over everything when if the tables were turned they'd have done the exact same thing.

[Judge]

Even when emeriti eventually trained up they were in deep trouble, with or without fortified being "OP" early game. CR had multiple provs who could double anyone in the kd with one who could triple. By 12h, emeriti didn't even have offense to break in return because they had to focus on thieves or they'd bleed gold. By 24 hours I'm assuming they'd be able to break in return, but they'd still be trading single taps for doubles and have already bled two waves worth, negating whatever econ advantage they had.

And CR doesn't even have a setup. Some random defected at OOP and everyone was allowed to pick what they want. With a proper whoring setup, it would have been even more trouble for emeriti. Having no setup was the only thing what could have made this close.

Anyway, it should be noted to the 2-3 people from emeriti who have been crying all thread that pretty much every person with no skin in the race is siding with CR on this. It's cute how absies manage to cry foul over everything when if the tables were turned they'd have done the exact same thing.

First of all u need to set ur facts straight.

There are only 4 players playing in that KD who are old abs.
There are like 14 people in the kingdom who were randomly in the kd when emeriti first formed(team lol) + recruited last age
There are like 7 Pew Pew guys.

Anyways Emeriti in deep trouble? Do u even have intel or in case you did, did you even look at it? I have a random province and I took intel of both CR and Emeriti and they had none who could double or tripple Emeriti. So stop saying bull****. CR also had less than 1 tpa accross and Emeriti had nearly same tpa.

Fast forward 24 hrs where Emeriti is into fortified and CR is in aggressive, they would have trained nearly 30k offence on their orcs with them keeping 20k defence army out. CR at the same time had 30-32k max offence and 3-8k defence apart from a couple of their dwarfs who had more defence considering elites homes. at max if cr would have trained dspec for defence they would have gone to like 12-15k defence.

So no, It would have been Emeriti that would have bashed CR like a ghetto instead of the way you are proclaiming!

[sexual harassment panda]

First of all u need to set ur facts straight.

There are only 4 players playing in that KD who are old abs.
There are like 14 people in the kingdom who were randomly in the kd when emeriti first formed(team lol) + recruited last age
There are like 7 Pew Pew guys.

Anyways Emeriti in deep trouble? Do u even have intel or in case you did, did you even look at it? I have a random province and I took intel of both CR and Emeriti and they had none who could double or tripple Emeriti. So stop saying bull****. CR also had less than 1 tpa accross and Emeriti had nearly same tpa.

Fast forward 24 hrs where Emeriti is into fortified and CR is in aggressive, they would have trained nearly 30k offence on their orcs with them keeping 20k defence army out. CR at the same time had 30-32k max offence and 3-8k defence apart from a couple of their dwarfs who had more defence considering elites homes. at max if cr would have trained dspec for defence they would have gone to like 12-15k defence.

So no, It would have been Emeriti that would have bashed CR like a ghetto instead of the way you are proclaiming!

A few people in CR came oop with 50k offense. One had 60k.

Emeriti had about 20k def across the board, lower on orcs, higher on elves.

Emeriti came oop with 100 thieves. CR had 200-300 a piece. Emeriti had to spend their first set of resources to training thieves rather than offense. Their soms showed as much.

By 12 hours when CR's second wave was about to start their top orc only had about 5k offense when CR were up to 8k def. It wasn't going to be until 24 hours until emeriti could realistically single tap.

At least if you are going to call me out, get your facts right. You obviously didn't take intel of both kingdoms.

[Meep]

Fast forward 24 hrs where Emeriti is into fortified and CR is in aggressive, they would have trained nearly 30k offence on their orcs with them keeping 20k defence army out. CR at the same time had 30-32k max offence and 3-8k defence apart from a couple of their dwarfs who had more defence considering elites homes. at max if cr would have trained dspec for defence they would have gone to like 12-15k defence.

Fast forward 10 hours and CR is waved by another KD, fast forward 16 hours and CR is in war.

24 hours into that war we still have 20 provs with 30k+ offense.

But I'm sure we had 30-32k max offense OOP except for a couple of provs.

Nevermind that until we got waved our defense was literally rising faster than their offense and we had over 30,000 more military trained than emeriti.

Nevermind that our peasant space would have passed theirs after wave two.

Forget getting your facts straight, just make **** up and hope people don't question it.

[Goodwitch]

First of all u need to set ur facts straight.

There are only 4 players playing in that KD who are old abs.
There are like 14 people in the kingdom who were randomly in the kd when emeriti first formed(team lol) + recruited last age
There are like 7 Pew Pew guys.

Anyways Emeriti in deep trouble? Do u even have intel or in case you did, did you even look at it? I have a random province and I took intel of both CR and Emeriti and they had none who could double or tripple Emeriti. So stop saying bull****. CR also had less than 1 tpa accross and Emeriti had nearly same tpa.

Fast forward 24 hrs where Emeriti is into fortified and CR is in aggressive, they would have trained nearly 30k offence on their orcs with them keeping 20k defence army out. CR at the same time had 30-32k max offence and 3-8k defence apart from a couple of their dwarfs who had more defence considering elites homes. at max if cr would have trained dspec for defence they would have gone to like 12-15k defence.

So no, It would have been Emeriti that would have bashed CR like a ghetto instead of the way you are proclaiming!

lol if your numbers were correct it would make me really sad that we didnt land next door. If TPA was at almost 1 there is no way they could have lost millions to thieves as they claimed, they were in fort after all. 30 offense and 20k defense aren't all that stellar. I would seriously hope CR has attackers with more than 30k offense and if 20k def is all Emeriti can muster then I would consider them dog food, with or without offense. Any war ghetto can double that.

[Judge]

A few people in CR came oop with 50k offense. One had 60k.

Emeriti had about 20k def across the board, lower on orcs, higher on elves.

Emeriti came oop with 100 thieves. CR had 200-300 a piece. Emeriti had to spend their first set of resources to training thieves rather than offense. Their soms showed as much.

By 12 hours when CR's second wave was about to start their top orc only had about 5k offense when CR were up to 8k def. It wasn't going to be until 24 hours until emeriti could realistically single tap.

At least if you are going to call me out, get your facts right. You obviously didn't take intel of both kingdoms.

None in CR had more than 35k offence at OOP. Do u even know maths or have been a failure your entire life?
CR came out with specs army on entire kingdom so going with the ratio of 300 thieves + 500-1k dspa + 4k(that would have been trained at oop) ospecs, their max offence with TGS + some stables (if they ran any) will come down to 32-35k.

Emeriti came out with 24-25k defence across board and after 2 waves apart from their elves, they still had 20-22k defence across board.
As far as thieves go, I took infiltrates on both kingdoms and Emeriti ran 250 odd thieves on an average whereas CR had 300 on an average.

So I have no clue where you come up with your fairy tale facts!