omg omg omg panda what?!

[Shai]

You are giving me GOLD here for my theme!

I'll join any day if i can be clow bin

[flogger]

You are giving me GOLD here for my theme!

that was the best theme of the past 20 ages, well 2nd best, behind BB's Celine Dion theme.

[Judge]

Reason we did alliance was ABS power playing and deal breaking in top. Im refer to age 57 when after AMA beat solo ABS competition and was in position to Win Jdorje/Sanctuary poll 2vs1 BS+Deal break for stop AMA win age. So when you face alliance controlling 4 from top 5 Spots in server and they don't care for keep his deals and play 1vs1 only solution is to form alliance for fight them.

So far atm Emerity is worst KD in server having in 1 KD Dorje/ASF and clow bin. All they know is to use external help for handle his competitors and i wont be surprised if all deal break Panda is again involved ASF or Binar. Its how they play.

You still have wet dreams about ASF right? :D

[CannaWhoopazz]

You still have wet dreams about ASF right? :D

Do you not?

[AquaSeaFoam]

Elit, Elit... Tsk tsk. First I am not even playing this age. Second, my kingdoms have always held their deals. No one can name a single time I have broken my deal, but there are many examples of you breaking yours.

Reason we did alliance was ABS power playing and deal breaking in top. Im refer to age 57 when after AMA beat solo ABS competition and was in position to Win Jdorje/Sanctuary poll 2vs1 BS+Deal break for stop AMA win age. So when you face alliance controlling 4 from top 5 Spots in server and they don't care for keep his deals and play 1vs1 only solution is to form alliance for fight them.

So far atm Emerity is worst KD in server having in 1 KD Dorje/ASF and clow bin. All they know is to use external help for handle his competitors and i wont be surprised if all deal break Panda is again involved ASF or Binar. Its how they play.

[Elit]

Elit, Elit... Tsk tsk. First I am not even playing this age. Second, my kingdoms have always held their deals. No one can name a single time I have broken my deal, but there are many examples of you breaking yours.

Yes if you refer to Rage they actually dint break deal but you was ABS leader and ABS Kds have break deals several times with KDs i was in past. You was perfect aware Jdorje plan to set BS 2vs1 against AMA after they loss his war but you did noting to stop him. Havoc gave us notice during active hostile but you did noting to stop them. Here is other examples too but i will keep them for next time if need.

Here is some bla bla bla in forum but actually i never broke first any deal...but if some one break deal with me i have legit right to make same in return.

[Proteus]

So far atm Emerity is worst KD in server having in 1 KD Dorje/ASF and clow bin. All they know is to use external help for handle his competitors and i wont be surprised if all deal break Panda is again involved ASF or Binar. Its how they play.

This is 100% incorrect, what is the basis for your statement? CR got waved by some ghetto early age because they had no defense. They make excuse for 3 kds to wave us because we have no offense but random kd can't wave them because they have no defense? We were planning to declare on them and us not getting a war win early really set us back in the beginning.

Panda getting hit right now has nothing to do with us, these guys posted their reasons for hitting them, absolutely nothing to do with us.

ASF hasn't been around at all this age, does not have a prov in kd, and not even around on chat. No one in here condones or encourages deal breaking people.

Also jdorje didn't make a plan to 2v1 AMA, havoc was the one who was wanting to do what they did.

[Elit]

Also jdorje didn't make a plan to 2v1 AMA, havoc was the one who was wanting to do what they did.

During your time in AMA you already admitted its was disused in ABS concul and was all Jdorje idea. Goodz in his chat few ages later admitted same. Its not first time when Jdorje cant take loss war and go emo mode...

[StratOcastle]

Yes. SWEA had to be in range and that's when lady luck tends to crash the coronation. Can't say Mansoor wasn't dialing for dollars. Cause and effect with a gentle breeze can make funny things happen.

To your point though, Elit, I don't think any kingdom at that time was your equal in war. They were really good, but you guys were impressive enough for me to pay attention to what you were doing.

[Elit]

Yes. SWEA had to be in range and that's when lady luck tends to crash the coronation. Can't say Mansoor wasn't dialing for dollars. Cause and effect with a gentle breeze can make funny things happen.

To your point though, Elit, I don't think any kingdom at that time was your equal in war. They were really good, but you guys were impressive enough for me to pay attention to what you were doing.

Its first time when you don't use "your way of talk" :)
Thanks ;)

[makeo]

Its first time when you don't use "your way of talk" :)
Thanks ;)

Thank you to you too Elit.

Interesting to hear the perspective, and I appreciate it.

(Luv ya Strat0 too. We should catch up some time.)


People are free to provide different thoughts.

[flogger]

If I had to do all over again I probably farm out pew, then share the land with AMA later resetting where we both were in charts and prolly try and arrange AMA vs BB war for age. Instead as Elit said, we did nothing because nothings worse in utopia when own alliance all argue with eachother and get in fights, makes me wanna not login.

[Elit]

I messed about one from events. BB and CR was ready to war but Drama came and both KDs did CF deal for land.

Yes i agree with flogger and he personally explained it to me few ages later how he didn't want to log because all this stressed him big time.

Good im used to deal with all kind events :D

[pierniczek]

I wish to clarify a few things, you can treat this as our official stance.

hesus and co has bottomfed us ruthlessly throughout the ages, 2-3 times per age. Since age 61 I keep a notebook about Utopia related things. There I have a tally of which KD bottomfed our Kingdom the most and which monarch was the biggest as*hole.
I have to admit that since a couple of ages back the most outstanding, by far, kingdom was Pandas with thier leader hesus at 1st place.

Last age after getting bottomfed twice and being ignored multiple times we vowed revenge.
One may say that bottomfeeding isn't "deal breaking". One might say we should have asked first, given them time to prepare for a war.

So I ask this: Do you think we were ever asked if it's okay to bottomfeed us? Do you think we ever got time to prepare?

We are just a "warring ghetto" as they call us so land does not matter for us. Yes we realised we would be crushed when our CF expired, so instead of waiting, we decided to act. We never thought someone might feel so comfortable as to sit with 107 milion GC stacked in yr 2.
Sure one might say we ruined our age but we'd rather get revenge then endure tax all age from the same KD that bottomfed us so many times before.
We understand bottomfeeding is part of the game, especially with such a lower playerbase but it can look way diffrent. We know this cause this is the only kingdom we have a grudge against.

If anyone here thinks we didn't know the consequences or that we thought we'd get away with the acres then they are stupid.


ODIN VENTER I VALHALL!!!

TIL VALHALL!!!

[coss]

I wish to clarify a few things, you can treat this as our official stance.

hesus and co has bottomfed us ruthlessly throughout the ages, 2-3 times per age. Since age 61 I keep a notebook about Utopia related things. There I have a tally of which KD bottomfed our Kingdom the most and which monarch was the biggest as*hole.
I have to admit that since a couple of ages back the most outstanding, by far, kingdom was Pandas with thier leader hesus at 1st place.

Last age after getting bottomfed twice and being ignored multiple times we vowed revenge.
One may say that bottomfeeding isn't "deal breaking". One might say we should have asked first, given them time to prepare for a war.

So I ask this: Do you think we were ever asked if it's okay to bottomfeed us? Do you think we ever got time to prepare?

We are just a "warring ghetto" as they call us so land does not matter for us. Yes we realised we would be crushed when our CF expired, so instead of waiting, we decided to act. We never thought someone might feel so comfortable as to sit with 107 milion GC stacked in yr 2.
Sure one might say we ruined our age but we'd rather get revenge then endure tax all age from the same KD that bottomfed us so many times before.
We understand bottomfeeding is part of the game, especially with such a lower playerbase but it can look way diffrent. We know this cause this is the only kingdom we have a grudge against.

If anyone here thinks we didn't know the consequences or that we thought we'd get away with the acres then they are stupid.


ODIN VENTER I VALHALL!!!

TIL VALHALL!!!

If you think you will war again after our war this age you are wrong. There is a lot of time when top nw kds just slack and do nothing. Will be our pleasure to keep on hurting you every single time you attempt to war someone.

And from what I heard people know you as dealbreakers, I can promise you one thing: Don;t you even dare to seek any type of agreement with us after all this is over(and won't be for a long time)

PS: This dude is Outplayerz Empire in disguise ... he has a notebook where he writes the acres he has to claim lol

PS2: We had others with grudge that waved us OOP. They are disbanded now. And we gained a LOT out of them. Even if in your mind you think you hurt us ... you might eventually just get us even bigger and make us a service by dealbreaking. We will see how it all will turn out in the end and if the damage you made dealbreaking will set us back. Btw ... Bart's advices for you so far are trash anyway ... I hope you feel well when people call you "tool"