omg omg omg panda what?!

[Elit]

We are willing to CF all the Kds that razed us during the war and also willing to CF with Pandas and not retal raze them into their wars this age.

Hope everything is going to be good now and you can rebuild your kd.
Anri survived so im sad like you!

[maccar86]

We are willing to CF all the Kds that razed us during the war and also willing to CF with Pandas and not retal raze them into their wars this age.

Is that what you guys want because 24 hours ago you didn't feel like that or is it what Bart says you'll do?

[MyNameIsMatija]

We are willing to CF all the Kds that razed us during the war and also willing to CF with Pandas and not retal raze them into their wars this age.

Willing to? You'll be lucky if that's how it goes down, I can hear them salivating from here.

[Elldallan]

We are willing to CF all the Kds that razed us during the war and also willing to CF with Pandas and not retal raze them into their wars this age.

The questions that people needs to be asking themselves is exactly how trustworthy are your assurances`? does your word mean more than jack ****?
You already broke 1 deal this age so objectively why should these people give you the chance to break another rather than just ensuring that the threat is permanently dealt with?

Also the relative positions now compared to prior of said dealbreak is different, supposedly bart is salivating to vulture Pandas, are you willing to join others and force Spartans to extend cf in order to mitigate your dealbreak? That would probably go some ways to convince people that your word is worth more than jack ****.

[Goodwitch]

The questions that people needs to be asking themselves is exactly how trustworthy are your assurances`? does your word mean more than jack ****?
You already broke 1 deal this age so objectively why should these people give you the chance to break another rather than just ensuring that the threat is permanently dealt with?

Also the relative positions now compared to prior of said dealbreak is different, supposedly bart is salivating to vulture Pandas, are you willing to join others and force Spartans to extend cf in order to mitigate your dealbreak? That would probably go some ways to convince people that your word is worth more than jack ****.

lol you are kidding right? so yea they messed up, big time. Name a kingdom that doesn't have something in their past that others will dwell on? or rather please don't because that would derail this thread again.
they apologized and withdrew like they were asked to do. ate a big piece of humble pie while doing it.

now you want them to help FORCE another kingdom into a cf? I don't care which kingdom it is forcing cf or forcing wars is bs.

[Aranfein]

Not really if they were at fault for it in the first place Goodwitch, I agree under normal circumstances its bs, but they dealbroke and cost people time that had to assist in sorting the mess they made.

resorting CFs to put things back to status quo after is only a natural path. (its happened before and likely bound to happen again)

[Loons]

lol you are kidding right? so yea they messed up, big time. Name a kingdom that doesn't have something in their past that others will dwell on? or rather please don't because that would derail this thread again.
they apologized and withdrew like they were asked to do. ate a big piece of humble pie while doing it.

now you want them to help FORCE another kingdom into a cf? I don't care which kingdom it is forcing cf or forcing wars is bs.

Goodwitch, if you go back and read all of jesters reasons/excuses/flames towards nonpandas and the kingdoms that stepped into the conflict to solve it, and also see what they have posted in our war forums, on top of logs we have you would feel differently.

With that said nonpandas core has accepted their apology, LS is currently talking with them. But one of the non negotiable terms is that Jesters do not go after any of the kingdoms that stepped in. Thats cold cut.... jesters wont get a CF from us without that happening.

[Elldallan]

lol you are kidding right? so yea they messed up, big time. Name a kingdom that doesn't have something in their past that others will dwell on? or rather please don't because that would derail this thread again.
they apologized and withdrew like they were asked to do. ate a big piece of humble pie while doing it.

now you want them to help FORCE another kingdom into a cf? I don't care which kingdom it is forcing cf or forcing wars is bs.

They intentionally made a mess so in my opinion if their apology is honest they have the obligation to do whatever they can to do undo the damage they cause and reset the conditions as close as possible to what the situation was prior to their dealbreak. So yeah if another kd is trying benefit from that situation they should therefore be willing to force that kd to extend a cf long enough that pandas can reasonably prepare for that conflict. Especially since Jesters are supposedly Spartans lapdog and it is therefore reasonable to assume they did all of this to benefit Spartans if Spartans appear to benefit from the whole situation and are refusing to extend cf so Pandas can have a reasonable chance to prepare for a conflict with Spartans.

[Razer]

Bad style by Spartans

[Bart of Sparta]

Prove it!

[Elldallan]

Prove it!

This is the court of public opinion, not a court of law. We don't concern ourselves with such pesky things as evidence. A mere appearance of impropriety is enough to cause WWIII.

[Panthira]

@Panthira

Perhaps WD is not considered a good death. I'm watching The Last Samurai, so...

Gotcha.

[Panthira]

I know the logs of which ppl speak, as I have seen them. While they do insinuate Bart is the one behind this, I would not say they are proof at all. Especially since they are taken out a small sample of context and English is Bart's 2nd? 4th? Language.

Jesters fought hard, and they made that choice. Whether for their own reasons or to protect someone else. What are they going to do now?

[vir]

I know the logs of which ppl speak, as I have seen them. While they do insinuate Bart is the one behind this, I would not say they are proof at all. Especially since they are taken out a small sample of context and English is Bart's 2nd? 4th? Language.

Jesters fought hard, and they made that choice. Whether for their own reasons or to protect someone else. What are they going to do now?

I actually think its the logs with jesters that people are referring to not the ones with bart since the ones with part say nothing that would make people react really, jesters on the other hand have been a bit more outspoken about their intentions and how they see their relation with sparta etc, that make some people react strongly, only natural.

[Panthira]

What are the 5 kingdoms that hit Jesters?