Or at least increases penalties significantly. Something like 48 hours for your armies to return after attacking a kingdom at war.
There's no reason to allow and encourage this sort of "strategy".
Or at least increases penalties significantly. Something like 48 hours for your armies to return after attacking a kingdom at war.
There's no reason to allow and encourage this sort of "strategy".
Yea there is , keeps people from waving and jumping into friendly wars to hide
Monsters
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The problem of wave-then-run-into-fake-war is not worth the cost of allowing war interference.
Much easier to solve the problem by reporting the incident and getting the war news as proof.
Hitting into wars is already severely penalized.
you dont understand what a friendly war is then. hence why you cant understand why attacks into war has to be allowed.Also as mentioned it is already penalized greatly.Originally Posted by Gladiatus
Very few people hit into wars for no reason. some are accidents,some are for stupid reason but most are brought on by someone else prior to it happening for their own actions.
Monsters
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Yes exactly. It's a way to blackmail a kingdom to destroy their entire age. Which is an insane game mechanic. It's like removing GB protection. Or removing size diff penalties in attack gains
No it's a way to usually pay back a doucebag kd that thought they could get a way with crap and then run into a war.
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Which is normally the only time this happens and gets brought up,People doing it for no reason the game handles itself.People having it done to them normally have a reason.
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OOW attacks exist to allow the players to police themselves. Getting hit with OOW razes means you've done something that other players have deemed worthy of actioning you for. If you've decided to OOW raze a target you've committed yourself to a long term hostile situation (you can't just go "play") and you're giving a huge meter advantage to your target.
There's really nothing unbalanced or unfair about the mechanic. Utopia isn't a 1v1 game. It's your kingdom vs everyone else (in whatever way you'd like to compete)
There are 3 threads in the forums about this nonsense happening
RoO
Wolves
Settlers
In all these cases there's no recourse. Insane demands like delete your monarch because we have nothing to play for, except making you angry. Or we lost a war (possibly because of OOW razing from douchebags) and now we're going to take it out on you.
Anyway. Whatever good you think this does. It does way more harm and needs to be handled properly. Because at this point one troll can ruin an age for an entire kingdom.
Do you not like what they're doing? Then raze them into their wars. Police them. It's what it's there for. Obviously you have no reason not to since there's no downsides right?
To suggest that there's no recourse is just silly. The fact that kingdoms choose to either ignore the acts or arrange a diplomatic resolution in lieu of taking advantage of buttons presented doesn't mean there are no consequences to your actions. Do you think the kingdoms involved are just going to forget about all this? You think they're just going to be chums and have a laugh about it? No. Give them a good chance and a decent reason and watch them screw one of those kingdoms to the wall
No. I think people in the kingdoms involved are just going to stop playing. Because what's the point of building your kingdom. Recruiting, weeding out inactives, convincing people to sacrifice sleep, etc. If a random asshat gets upset about eating a random attack and demands half your kingdom deletes itself or he'll raze into every war for the next 5 ages?
Allowing this sort of douchebaggery to exist has no purpose. Or rather, the purpose it serves doesn't justify the cost of allowing it.
There is no cost. Some random troll can't ruin your age. They can raze 60 acres off someone every 9 hours or so. If that's age ending devastation then I can't help you.
It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to get out of the situation that you're getting your wars razed in to. Either through cf's, using the button they gave you for easy war wins, diplo with the people doing the razing to end it, getting friends to help you out, and all sorts of creative ideas along with these boring ideas that would solve things.
You keep saying that it serves no good purpose, but it actively discourages the very thing you're in here complaining about. Without a way to police, people would be allowed to act like unprecedented assholes with absolutely zero repercussions. You think anybody is going to give a **** about your hostile? Or that you're pumping? Or that you're 1/10th their size. They literally have zero reason to not treat you like a pile of dog **** because you pose absolutely no threat to them and they'll take everything they want and if you don't like it you can go ahead and delete because that's the only way you're gonna be able to get them to stop.
That's the utopia you want?
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Yea, was ****ing insane demands, we demanded 5 hits cause they waved into our conflict. Crazy insane I agree, how could we demand 5 hits! ... If you gonna bring up examples you should be well aware of the situation rather than just cherry pick what fits your arguments best. But I guess you're one of those person that likes to hit kingdoms then go straight to war and want to become protected.
Last age of our b2b2b, we crowned while folle (and octo?) + 'friends' were spamming 8-10 multis to raze us during our crown war with pandas. We had a few provs razekilled during the war.
Even minorly organized, it's not game breaking.
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