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    Dragons & The Guide

    Does the type of dragon selected affect the cost and HP of the dragon? I understand relation mod affects it.

    Are the dragon formulas on the guide accurate? http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...id_%26_Stances

    Dragon Cost
    Dragon Cost = MAX ( Target Kingdom NW , Your Kingdom NW ) * 1.25
    Dragon Cost is determined at the time the dragon is started.
    Dragon HP
    Dragon HP = ( Receiving Kingdom NW / ~44 ) * Relations Mod
    Dragon HP is determined at the time the dragon is sent.

    We think we noticed the Sapphire dragon at the started prior to war costed less than the Emerald Dragon mid war. is this possible I didnt check the math based on the formulas at the time just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlyzinc View Post
    Does the type of dragon selected affect the cost and HP of the dragon? I understand relation mod affects it.

    Are the dragon formulas on the guide accurate? http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...id_%26_Stances

    Dragon Cost
    Dragon Cost = MAX ( Target Kingdom NW , Your Kingdom NW ) * 1.25
    Dragon Cost is determined at the time the dragon is started.
    Dragon HP
    Dragon HP = ( Receiving Kingdom NW / ~44 ) * Relations Mod
    Dragon HP is determined at the time the dragon is sent.

    We think we noticed the Sapphire dragon at the started prior to war costed less than the Emerald Dragon mid war. is this possible I didnt check the math based on the formulas at the time just curious.
    EDIT: Re-read and saw you were referring to COST, and not HP. If it cost less at start, that could be due to NW difference.

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    Drake's have different costs and hp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    Drake's have different costs and hp.
    Is there a Formula or a rule of thumb we could follow? Preferably a formula

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    this is what i use;

    Cost Metric = 0.875 * [Target KD's NW]



    Sapphire - 1.0x Cost Metric

    Gold - 2.0x Cost Metric

    Ruby - 2.4x Cost Metric

    Emerald - 3.0 Cost Metric



    My HP Metric = 0.75% Receiving KD NW (That is * 0.0075 )



    Sapphire HP = HP Metric

    Gold HP = 3.5x HP Metric

    Ruby HP = 4.2x HP Metric

    Emerald HP = 5.25x HP Metric

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    Quote Originally Posted by RattleHead View Post
    this is what i use;
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...bagnEYk9w/edit

    is what i use.

    Edit your hp mods are off for gold and ruby. Your Cost metric is also wrong it counts both kds nw..i'll also update the wiki
    http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...tances#Dragons
    Last edited by Persain; 14-02-2017 at 18:53.

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    I thought Cost takes both KDs into account as well, but the last 2 times I have checked against my calcs I have ended up with Dragon Cost related to the target KD despite them being smaller...?

    I will admit my Gold n Ruby HP are speculative, I haven't seen them fly on my KD in awhile, at least not where I've remembered to note the HP... TY for updates

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    Dragon HP
    Dragon HP is determined at the time the dragon is sent.
    Dragon HP = Dragon Type HP Mod * Relations Modifier *( Receiving Kingdom NW / 132)
    Dragon Type Cost Mod
    Saphire 1
    Gold 2
    Ruby 2.4
    Emerald 3
    Dragon Type HP Mod
    Saphire 1
    Gold 2.625
    Ruby 4.5
    Emerald 5.25
    Relations Relations Modifier
    Relations: Ceasefire 0.25
    Relations: None 0.5
    Relations: Unfriendly 0.5
    Relations: Hostile 0.75
    Relations: War 1

    From the Wiki.

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    This was updated after the original post

    Thank you

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