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    NS damage calc

    Could someone help explain the NS damage calc?

    http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...every_Formulas

    If I understand it correctly, you kill the MAX between 90% of the thieves you've sent %18 of the targets army? (Assuming no WT's, race/pers boosts, etc)?

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    Based on how it is worded...
    I think that you have to send 20% (18% / 90% = 20%)
    of the targets (non-thief) military population AT HOME.

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    NS hits troops away too.

    tbh I have no idea how to interpret that table lol. But the thievery guide says:

    Effect: Kills up to a maximum of 13% enemy soldiers at a rate of 0.67 soldiers per thief.
    Also kills a much smaller amount of specialists and elites.

    So assuming that formula is correct, for targeting a stack of X troops, you'd want to send (X*0.13)/0.67. Which works out to X/5.15. Id usually take the largest stack of troops and divide by that. If elites are their largest stack and Im not rocking mega TD I use the specs number as it seems to do similar damage, I guess as NS barely targets leets, but someone else will know better than me on that :)

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    Take their SoM, then take the max[o-specs, d-specs, elites] / 5-6. If the largest box is a specs unit I divide by 5.5, and if they're elites I divide by 5. It'll give you a good starting point, and you can always test to see if you get more kills on the next by sending a few hundred extra. If not then go back to your starting number and every few ops subtract a few thieves sent so you're not oversending

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    Sooo i haven't actually played with ns #'s exactly but......if i go to utopia angel thief calculator and plug in "Data" i get

    10,000 solds.....send 2,463 thieves kill 1,300 per op.
    10,000 dspecs...send 1,965 thieves kill 55 per op
    10,000 leets......send 2,417 thieves kill 29 per op

    I'd say solds/2.5+dspecs/2+leets/2.5=# of theives to send. obviously as you kill military the number of theives u need to send drops as does the damage.

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