Do Hospitals protect Wizards from Massacres?

[The Moon of Earth]

Yes? No? (Would the Elf casualty bonus?)

[Bishop]

No and no.

[Bo To]

No, but avian's -gains penalty affects it. If you get massacred by avian the dmg would be smaller compared to race without it(und for example).

[natebane]

massacre is affected by gains so orcs have stronger massacres.. it'd make sense that guard stations would reduce wizards lost, but not completely sure on that

[The Moon of Earth]

Nah GS is just for acres ... cheers all

[jmiedema]

I'm like 95% sure that Guard Stations reduce any of the extra damage effects of attacks, whether it be land from traditional march, pez/thief/wizzie kills from massacre, gc/food/runes from plunders or (this is the one im not sure of) scientists on abducts.

Kills and gains are different things. In a massacre it says you massacred (example) 9000 peasants thieves and wizards. You killed 1500 enemy troops.
That 9000 number is effected by GAINS which is affected by the gains formula as well as +gains (orcs, war heros, +hours), -gains (Avians, -hours, anonymity) those things will directly affect the % of peasants/thieves/wizards you kill. In addition Guard Stations % will directly lower those peasants/thieves/wizards gains that you kill.

the "you killed 1500 enemy troops" portion is the kills formula. which is a SEPERATE formula affected by things like Cleric, Elf Bonus, Hospitals, Orc, Bloodlust, pitfalls, bribe generals (im probably missing some)

The key point is that gains and kills are completely different formulas if you do a massacre against a province that only has 100 defense, you can still send like 104 offense and kill thousands of peasants/thieves/wizards, because (just like a land hit) you successfully completed the attack, and gains are a % of their total formula.

[The Moon of Earth]

Ahh well if this be correct then i am confusing GS not effecting Learn with not effecting any but Traditional March ... hmmm

[JerseyJoe]

I would say university and universities alone are the only thing that protect scientist.

[Persain]

I would say university and universities alone are the only thing that protect scientist.

and you would be wrong

[JerseyJoe]

and you would be wrong

Well that's something I'm glad to be wrong about. Are you confirming gs do also help protect scientist?

[JusticeLeague]

and you would be wrong

Think he not so sure too. Otherwise, he will say "you are wrong" instead "you would be wrong"

Sounds more ambiguous. So if it turns out to be that he isn't right, he isn't wrong too...Title of being a strategist is at stake

[Bo To]

GS protect everything. Unis protect only scientists at much higher rate.

[Persain]

Think he not so sure too. Otherwise, he will say "you are wrong" instead "you would be wrong"

Sounds more ambiguous. So if it turns out to be that he isn't right, he isn't wrong too...Title of being a strategist is at stake

sory not meant to be ambiguous. GS protect science. My kd has tested this both when science was books and when science was scientists.

[Madchess]

I find it harder to believe that gs should protect against massacres as it is not a captured resurce as such but one you try to destroy if it is true however, logic dictates it also protect agains raze and stuff like lightning strike and AW since you are trying to destroy other resurces.

[Bo To]

I find it harder to believe that gs should protect against massacres as it is not a captured resurce as such but one you try to destroy if it is true however, logic dictates it also protect agains raze and stuff like lightning strike and AW since you are trying to destroy other resurces.

Guard Stations 0 0.0% 0.0% lower resource losses when attacked (1.56%)