Calculating ambush

[Stocke]

New player recently returned and played a bit in age 70, performed a few ambushes last age successfully. First one this age and I failed, so here I am trying to figure out what math I did wrong

Undead army out 3 generals, 1,139 skeletons, 2,162 ghouls and 3,301 horses. AFAIK only the ghouls matter right? 1 def point so 2162 * .8 = 1729.6 I'm a halfling so I 1729.6 / 8 (no modifiers) = 216.2 I sent 320 strongarms for extra cushion but still failed miserably.

Anyone care to point out my mistake? I was referencing Raw Offense Required = [(Target's Elites sent*Racial Elite Defense Value) + (Target's Offspecs Sent*Racial Defspec Value) + (Target's Soldiers sent*Racial Soldier Defense Value)] * 0.8

[Persain]

simple thing is skeletons matter too. skeletons are the "offspecs sent"


Target's Elites sent=2162
Racial Elite Defense Value=1
Target's Offspecs Sent=1139
Racial Defspec Value=6
Target's Soldiers sent=0
Racial Soldier Defense Value=2............i edited this from it being 1 since i was wrong (2am posting ftl)

(2162*1+1139*6+0*1)*0.8=7,196.8 mod offense sent

You are a halfling so 7,196.8 / 8=899.6 =====> 900 offspecs to ambush

[MeIkor]

Racial Soldier Defense Value=1

It does not matter in this case, but isnt the Soldier Defense Value = 2? Or do I miss something?

[Unrelentingloki]

Soldier Racial def value is not 1, its 2. but in this case doesnt matter cause no soldiers sent.

[Stocke]

simple thing is skeletons matter too. skeletons are the "offspecs sent"


Target's Elites sent=2162
Racial Elite Defense Value=1
Target's Offspecs Sent=1139
Racial Defspec Value=6
Target's Soldiers sent=0
Racial Soldier Defense Value=1

(2162*1+1139*6+0*1)*0.8=7,196.8 mod offense sent

You are a halfling so 7,196.8 / 8=899.6 =====> 900 offspecs to ambush

Oh well there's my mistake, thanks for clarifying that offspec count as 1.. I thought because they were X/0 (no defence) they offered no protection from ambush. Much appreciation for the response

[Shrinky]

Oh well there's my mistake, thanks for clarifying that offspec count as 1.. I thought because they were X/0 (no defence) they offered no protection from ambush. Much appreciation for the response

That's actually 1 point from the Racial Elite defense value. For the Racial Spec defense value, it is 6.

[Persain]

yea yea solds are 2 not 1 sorry my bad. edited that post ;)

[AquaSeaFoam]

Off specs count as the value of the d specs for that race. i.e. all races o specs count as 6 for ambush except dwarves (7) and elves (8).

Soldiers are indeed 2 except for halfling (3). I do not know for certain how aggressive affects soldiers for ambush. I'd assume it'd reduce their defense by one point, but it's probably safer to just assume it's not on if you can.

[Bo To]

I do not know for certain how aggressive affects soldiers for ambush. I'd assume it'd reduce their defense by one point, but it's probably safer to just assume it's not on if you can.

Ambush takes in account only the racial values without any modifiers(in this case aggression).

[AquaSeaFoam]

Good call Bo To.