Marine Le Pen Vs. Emmanuel Macron

[Palem]

If France elects Le Pen, they'll be pulling out of the EU, which means the EU will either end, or be pretty insignificant globally.
(For anyone curious why this is a big deal)

[handofthrawn]

If France elects Le Pen, they'll be pulling out of the EU, which means the EU will either end, or be pretty insignificant globally.
(For anyone curious why this is a big deal)

EU was destined to fail from the beginning. Any sort of agreement that allows people to quit when it's not beneficial to them is destined to fail. Plus add in a bunch of free loading countries and it's a recipe for disaster. Throw in forcing countries to take millions of immigrants and of course it explodes.

[Elldallan]

If France elects Le Pen, they'll be pulling out of the EU, which means the EU will either end, or be pretty insignificant globally.
(For anyone curious why this is a big deal)

I don't think the French President has the power to do that without a vote in parliament, and as she controls something like 0.35% of parliament...

I don't think you're quite understanding the idea of secession. If a state decides that things are so bad and they decide to seceed, they no longer acknowledge the laws of the United States, making a US law against secession a moot point.

The point of the law is to make it very clear that secession will be met with an invasion and a reclaiming of the state (s) and it's people. That however is a separate issue entirely from States being "allowed" to seceed. Of course they can, but the consequences most likely wouldn't be worth it.

Ironically, false.

Well there also has to be political will to fight a civil war which is anything but certain. And with other nations throwing their support for the defecting side just to interfere things could turn very very nasty very fast. And of course the loyalty of the military cannot 100% be relied upon in such a situation, it would be a disaster to morale to have to fight your former comrades in arms.

[Palem]

I don't think the French President has the power to do that without a vote in parliament, and as she controls something like 0.35% of parliament...

I know basically nothing about how any government outside of the US works (though I assume they're not radically different, at least parliamentary systems). But that being said my understanding of why this is concerning for most of Europe is the very real possibility that a La Pen victory would mean a very serious threat of France leaving the EU, which would be catastrophic (for the EU)

[Elldallan]

No, thats not true, or do you actually have factual evidence that points towards that France has never won a war? Remember that France is much older than USA so you have to think very hard.

No he doesn't have any such evidence unless he fabricates them like Trump fabricates "truths" because France throughout it's 1200 years or so of history has won multiple wars. Just take a look at Napoleon I who won several wars to the point where the whole of Europe basically had to unite against him.

I know basically nothing about how any government outside of the US works (though I assume they're not radically different, at least parliamentary systems). But that being said my understanding of why this is concerning for most of Europe is the very real possibility that a La Pen victory would mean a very serious threat of France leaving the EU, which would be catastrophic (for the EU)

No doubt Le Pen could cause a whole lot of mischief, much like Trump is That on and of self would spell a bunch of problems for EU, especially given Brexit negotiations. But I'm fairly sure that just like Trump can't end NATO or cancel international treaties without the support of congress etc Le Pen would face similar hurdles. From my googling it seems that the office of the French President holds a lot less power than the US one and most of the faily power the French President has stems from the fact that the President appoints the prime minister and thus the cabinet, but parliament can declare a vote of no confidence and depose the cabinet if they don't like it, and the President can then depose the National Assembly, but only once per year. So Le Pen winning power would likely mean a whole lot of unrest and political instability until she's somehow deposed, so it'd be chaos but I do think it'd take more to bring France out of the EU.