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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanain View Post
    The truth is that I don't think we can put it *quite* that strongly. There are possible innocent characterizations for Trump's language. In the interview, he talked about what he was thinking about, but not so much 'why'. I could easily make the argument that he was acknowledging that there just wasn't a good time to do it, because of the Russia investigation, but that he rationalized making the call *despite* the Russia investigation because there was nothing to that anyways...

    ...not that I believe that for a second, but it's perfectly consistent with Trump's language. My point is just that I don't think we have a smoking gun, and there's a lot more work to be done before we can say that he's done. Besides, if he's actually trying to bury the investigation, I'd MUCH rather get him on the crap he's trying to hide, rather than merely the fact of trying to hide it.
    Well lets see here... “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
    What is that if not a smoking gun?
    And lets be clear, not even the White House is trying to denounce that media report of the summary as false, which means that either that is accurate or what's in the summary is even worse...

    And personally I think getting Agent Orange on "just" obstruction is a start, it can be done quickly and relatively painlessly. We can the spend the next several years hashing out exactly what the Orange-Tufted Swamp Ogre was trying to hide, but if we wait than it's possible that by the time it's all done he's already sold out everything to Russia and ran off to the Cayman Islands with the proceeds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coldhearted View Post
    I am not talking about Fox VS MSNBC, but I am talking about what used to be considered unbiased news. Which now push completely far fetched stories with zero evidence and they later retract. Just saying media has went to far and now I would say 40 to 50% of the population will no longer believe anything they will say ever again. That is a scary thought as a whole but the media has went off the deep. My brother has a good tract record when it comes to protecting presidential winners. He said Trump would win hands down and is predicting Trump winning by a larger margin next time. This thing between the media and Trump has gotten personal. Media is out for blood and it's so obvious that anyone can see it. But in doing so they have undermined the credibility of journalism and Media across the USA.
    Exactly what on the media reporting on ****face von Clownstick is farfetched and untrue? Because lets be clear, a whole lot of the media reports seem very farfetched, but after a little while they turn out to be basically true, which of course is important.
    For example the reporting that the Short-Fingered Vulgarian had leaked sensitive classified intelligence to Russia during a private meeting with the Russian foreign minister no less seemed really far-fetched. I mean not even the Angry Pumpkin is that stupid right?... aaaaaand then the White House says, "well actually the President can unclassify intelligence, so he didn't leak any classified intelligence to the Russians." *facepalm*
    Last edited by Elldallan; 28-05-2017 at 08:11.
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