Trump brings the US yet another step towards becoming a Bana

[handofthrawn]

Why Hello Mr. Pot, you're also awfully terrible at producing sources for your wild and unhinged statements as well despite numerous and repeated requests for credible sources. So you should frankly be the very last one to ever criticise or belittle somebody's lack of sources Mr hypocrite.

Frankly the Republitards spearheaded by the Short-fingered Vulgarian is ten times better at making stuff up and producing fake news..
And yeah Trump was apparently never personally under investigation for the Russia thing but his campaign still is, and you can bet your ass that Trump is now personally under investigation for for corruptly obstructing justice.

Sigh you obviously don't understand the power of the President. President can pardon anyone he wants to. If President Trump wanted to pardon Flynn he could with a stroke of the pen. Just like Obama did for the Traiter Chelsea Manning. Who was tried and convicted Traitor in a court of law. Where was your outrage? Anyways Trump is the head of every single federal agency in the government, including the FBI. If he wanted to he has the power to call the entire investigation off. But he doesn't because he has nothing to hide. Sure he could be impeached but you can be impeached for anything, doesn't have to be illegal. Anyways it's all just made up noise.

What you forgot to mention was Loretta lynch broke federal law by impeding the email investigation and most likely will be brought up on charges. ;)

[Swirvin'Birds]

Sigh you obviously don't understand the power of the President. President can pardon anyone he wants to. If President Trump wanted to pardon Flynn he could with a stroke of the pen. Just like Obama did for the Traiter Chelsea Manning. Who was tried and convicted Traitor in a court of law. Where was your outrage? Anyways Trump is the head of every single federal agency in the government, including the FBI. If he wanted to he has the power to call the entire investigation off. But he doesn't because he has nothing to hide. Sure he could be impeached but you can be impeached for anything, doesn't have to be illegal. Anyways it's all just made up noise.

What you forgot to mention was Loretta lynch broke federal law by impeding the email investigation and most likely will be brought up on charges. ;)

I would say it's you that doesn't understand the power of the POTUS and what damage he can do. The President does not have the power to make the investigation stop. That is obstruction of justice. Think Nixon would like to have a word with you. Sure he might not be offically charged but he most certainly would be impeached.
I would ask you the same question. Where is your anger since your soo upset with the Chelsea Manning deal? You know, the lady that leaked secrets to Wikileaks... The same Wikileaks that leaked the Clinton e-mails that you praised the leakers for? Besides wtf does Manning have to do with Trump and how do you know we were not upset with the decision? We sure as hell were not talking anout it.
Just made up noise? Lol... Oh your killing me here... To funny. Yea, it's all just make believe...

[handofthrawn]

I would say it's you that doesn't understand the power of the POTUS and what damage he can do. The President does not have the power to make the investigation stop. That is obstruction of justice. Think Nixon would like to have a word with you. Sure he might not be offically charged but he most certainly would be impeached.
I would ask you the same question. Where is your anger since your soo upset with the Chelsea Manning deal? You know, the lady that leaked secrets to Wikileaks... The same Wikileaks that leaked the Clinton e-mails that you praised the leakers for? Besides wtf does Manning have to do with Trump and how do you know we were not upset with the decision? We sure as hell were not talking anout it.
Just made up noise? Lol... Oh your killing me here... To funny. Yea, it's all just make believe...

Trump did nothing wrong because he isn't the one being investigated....... liberals can't seem to understand this. Just like Obama didn't do anything wrong with pardoning manning. Flynn just worked in the government and is the only one they found any evidence against. Trump can pardon Flynn or prosecute Flynn if he wishes. It's his power as President.

[Swirvin'Birds]

Trump did nothing wrong because he isn't the one being investigated....... liberals can't seem to understand this. Just like Obama didn't do anything wrong with pardoning manning. Flynn just worked in the government and is the only one they found any evidence against. Trump can pardon Flynn or prosecute Flynn if he wishes. It's his power as President.

Since he isn't being investigated he did nothing wrong? Really?
He isn't pardoning or persecuting anyone... He was trying to infuence a federal investigation into memebers of his staff.

[Goodwitch]

Trump did nothing wrong because he isn't the one being investigated....... liberals can't seem to understand this. Just like Obama didn't do anything wrong with pardoning manning. Flynn just worked in the government and is the only one they found any evidence against. Trump can pardon Flynn or prosecute Flynn if he wishes. It's his power as President.

I don't think you know what "liberals" means. You don't need to be a liberal to oppose President Trump. A large fraction of conservatives also oppose his actions, that does not make them liberals. While a President has many powers, he has also given an oath to serve , protect and act in the best interest of the People of the United States of America.

[Elldallan]

Sigh you obviously don't understand the power of the President.

Given that arrogant condescending attitude I will assume that erroneous parts of your post is intentional and a malicious attempt to obfuscate the facts

President can pardon anyone he wants to.

Wow! already your first LIE! Your track record isn't starting out too well.
The President cannot pardon anybody he wants to. He can only pardon offences "against the United States" this means that he cannot pardon anybody convicted in a state court as that would be a crime against that state, he also cannot pardon anybody convicted in civil court. It's also further established in the constitution that the President cannot pardon impeachments. So no, the President cannot pardon anybody he wants to, to say other wise is a LIE, and because you claim superior knowledge you're obviously not merely ignorant, you're actively attempting to spread lies.

If President Trump wanted to pardon Flynn he could with a stroke of the pen.

Yes he could, but impeachments can be appealed to the Supreme Court and if the President used his pardon power in a manner which is questionable we will likely see those pardons appealed to SCOTUS and then SCOTUS might place limits on that pardon power as it has before when SCOTUS established that a pardoned individual can refuse the pardon. So while yes he can pardon Flynn it's not certain that any such pardon would stand.

Just like Obama did for the Traiter Chelsea Manning. Who was tried and convicted Traitor in a court of law.

Again you LIE. Chelsea Manning was never charged with treason and she was cleared of the charge against her for "Aiding the Enemy" which is the UCMJ equivalent of treason. Thus she is explicitly not a traitor despite whatever else she was sentenced for(espionage amongst others).

Where was your outrage?

Personally I think that the pardon was appropriate because I think that the Chelsea Manning should have had legal immunity as a whistle-blower to at least some of the convictions. Because I think that the greater good was served here by leaking the war crimes committed by the US Military which otherwise would never have been made known to the public. The real outrage here is that the Apache crew was not really punished and they never had to stand before the ICC charged of war crimes.

Anyways Trump is the head of every single federal agency in the government, including the FBI. If he wanted to he has the power to call the entire investigation off.

Yes Agent Orange is the head of every federal agency and yes he has the power to instruct how those agencies works, for example he could instruct the FBI to not pursue petty drug charges as Obama did, that would be a correct use of his power. But bloody no he cannot corruptly instruct an agency to drop an investigation because it reflects badly on him. That's a textbook case of obstruction of justice and even Fu*kface von Clownstick is not above the law.

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, endeavours to influence, intimidate, or impede any grand or petit juror, or officer in or of any court of the United States, or officer who may be serving at any examination or other proceeding before any United States magistrate judge or other committing magistrate, in the discharge of his duty, or injures any such grand or petit juror in his person or property on account of any verdict or indictment assented to by him, or on account of his being or having been such juror, or injures any such officer, magistrate judge, or other committing magistrate in his person or property on account of the performance of his official duties, or corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavours to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

The President has no special exemption from this crime and could face up to 10 years in prison if found guilty of this crime for which he is now being investigated for by the special prosecutor Robert Muller.

But he doesn't because he has nothing to hide.

So why is he at every turn acting like he's got something to hide. If he had nothing to hide he would just have stayed the bloody hell away from the Russia investigation. But no he had to use his tiny hands to go and meddle in it, which makes it seem as if he's trying to hide something, even if there's nothing to hide. And the most hilarious outcome in all of this would be if the investigation concluded that Trump knowingly and intentionally tried to obstruct justice but also concluded that there was no collusion or other crime. Because you can be convicted for obstructing justice even if the investigation you were trying to obstruct didn't find any evidence of wrongdoing.

Sure he could be impeached but you can be impeached for anything, doesn't have to be illegal.

Nope, you cannot be impeached for anything, you have to be impeached for cause. The only offences the President or the Vice-President can be impeached for is treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanours. That's not "anything"

Anyways it's all just made up noise.

Nope, it's not, if it was the President would just have ignored it and let everything settle down, but no he had to go and grab the investigation by the pussy.

Since he isn't being investigated he did nothing wrong? Really?

Well it doesn't really matter because now Agent Orange is officially under investigation. But yeah handofthrawn doesn't seem to understand the very simple fact that just because you're not currently under investigation doesn't mean that you did nothing wrong or it cannot change. It just means that the current evidence doesn't point to you doing anything wrong, Flynn asked for immunity because "he had a story to tell" and the only way that he's ever getting immunity is if he flips on somebody higher up, maybe somebody like... Babyfingers McDrumpf.

http://www.wri.org/sites/default/fil..._emissions.png

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...xide_emissions

Cheers