Is Munk now part of uto or ?

[Mike^]

bart what about you stop with your anti UT crap.
go be releveant insted.

[Bart of Sparta]

makka

[Mike^]

the day they consider you in any team is the day we all leave, you got 0 place to be near anything utopia releated.
well that is not true you should be allowed to make forum topics and post here ... wait that you can now (some of the time).

[MyNameIsMatija]

the day they consider you in any team is the day we all leave, you got 0 place to be near anything utopia releated.
well that is not true you should be allowed to make forum topics and post here ... wait that you can now (some of the time).

What in the **** are you talking about?

[stealth4785]

the day they consider you in any team is the day we all leave, you got 0 place to be near anything utopia releated.
well that is not true you should be allowed to make forum topics and post here ... wait that you can now (some of the time).

Regarding Bart,

I don't necessarily agree with everything Bart posts but I do admire his passion for the game. With all the talk about the game dying or declining, anybody that has this much passion for the game and would like to turn that around would be an asset to said's game developer in my mind.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Regarding Bart,

I don't necessarily agree with everything Bart posts but I do admire his passion for the game. With all the talk about the game dying or declining, anybody that has this much passion for the game and would like to turn that around would be an asset to said's game developer in my mind.

Thank you.
Bart has done more for this game than most can even imagine, more importantly for the people playing it.

[Folle]

Thank you.
Bart has done more for this game than most can even imagine, more importantly for the people playing it.

This is true.

He took dealbreaking, shady deals, backstabbing, fake logs, mole planting, and times being banned, to a whole new level.

[octobrev]

This is true.

He took dealbreaking, shady deals, backstabbing, fake logs, mole planting, and times being banned, to a whole new level.

Surely a multi like yourself can appreciate the finer arts?

[Verminator]

Thank you.
Bart has done more for this game than most can even imagine, more importantly for the people playing it.

I think you're not seeing both sides of the Bart Impact Coin...

Undeniably, Bart HAS done a lot for the game AND the people in it, because he is a very intelligent player and can provide a lot of things like knowledge and advice on how to play the game itself, and especially how to deal with the political machinations within the community. However, as the phrase goes, "it takes one to know one" and he has also caused a lot of the strife in that same political atmosphere that he helps others navigate through.

Bart actually has that complex of the "savior who guides people through the darkness... that he himself helps to create" in a sense. He creates his own community elevation opportunities.

So when it comes to his approach towards those who oppose his viewpoints, primarily the developers and the very direction of the game itself, he has been borderline cancerous. He helps players sure, but his help comes from a place of strife and resistance, of emotional frustration and contrary behavior. He does what he does for the wrong reasons.

You say he has passion for the game, which is true, but he also has passion for his own place within the game. He does whatever it takes to climb that ladder of importance, but he ends up leaking too much negativity along the way and it spills down on the rest of the community below him.

If Bart could put aside his self-importance and adopt a stance of selfless cooperation, then perhaps his passion would be viewed as constructive instead of destructive. THAT would certainly become an asset to Utopia, but it's hard to see that ever happening, given how long he's had to realize that his direction is flawed and his course needs correction.

[Bart of Sparta]

If Bart could put aside his self-importance and adopt a stance of selfless cooperation, then perhaps his passion would be viewed as constructive instead of destructive.

It's very simple really. Sparta('s) always come #1 with me. I did offer the devs/mods to let go of that and enter their team. That was turned down.

Actually I think your entire analysis of the situation and my character is spot on. I'd say on the one hand I do the things out of more abstract/ideological reasons, but at the same time ambition quite often gets the better of me. Only those without ambition are without its inevitable flaws. If however, I could equate my ambition to the direction of the game, I'd be able to let go of personal goals.

And yes, I do believe that P2W is a bad way to go. And I also believe that adding more layers of mechanical complexity will make the game less enjoyable. There is more than enough complexity already in racial set-ups and the politics of the game. Adding more and more mechanical influences will just make the game more bland rather than interesting. Take chess. So simple, yet so intensely complicated and therefore played all around the world. If people want more fancy magic stuff they'll go and play hearthstone or some other crappy game.

In fact, this honest trailer exactly explains why I believe we shouldn't keep adding more and more rules and sub-rules to this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqBOmvba0g

Emphasis:

0:45 --> ye lol
0:55 --> translated to uto: Select one of the 81 race/personality combo's in the game.. or.. take one of the 2-7 that actually work each age.
1:05 --> also trolol

[Verminator]

I think most folks understand that Bart is just a very smart player who is delusional about his own level of importance to the game. He has the intelligence to do good in the game, but unfortunately he also has the emotional instability to do harm to the game with that very intelligence.

Most games all over the interwebs have these kinds of players, he is not some rare breed, he is just who he is. Take him at face value (even though most of his substance is clever manipulations) and just let him do his thing. He is no more or less a member of the community just because of his approach to the game.

[StratOcastle]

I just want munk to know I'm happy he's here doing what he's doing.

On the cast I noticed Cannawhoopazzz giving munk notes early on. I wonder what that was about?

the question of the day is: did Ordray and Canna play in Babies together?

[MyNameIsMatija]

Oh, thanks for explaining that Strato. Mike has just this weird way of expressing his gratitude, I see it now, we should all be grateful for what we have.

[StratOcastle]

Oh, thanks for explaining that Strato. Mike has just this weird way of expressing his gratitude, I see it now, we should all be grateful for what we have.

It's a free game. We don't use munkbot in our kingdom, which is how I want it. You know the story; it's a fantastic tool and I enjoy the challenge of facing opponents that use these type of advantages.

Don't fret Mike, he apparently has distaste for certain outsiders. The fundamentals of understanding a guy like Mike is in words and actions. I'm not offended by him, and you shouldn't be either.

Remember that Mike wanted the same things as the other renegades but all fell short due to diplomatic dogfights...Or, it's just a show. I do enjoy a show as my old school wrestling fandom indicates :)

[MyNameIsMatija]

Then you must appreciate a well timed over-the-rope-jump meddle.