Just so we all have our facts straight for #PayKuhan

[Palem]

Taken from here: http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...1#post15221439

Doing my best to sort out all the other stuff...

Typical abs vs. non abs thread with lots of smack talk. I've seen a lot of X vs insert-Abs-kd-name-here and typically has the same result, Abs kd wins and thread goes quiet. I don't expect this to be any different.

Paypal $100. I bet Elit's kd wins.

U in? How do i know u will pay if u lose?

Kuhan yes I am in. If you want we can both transfer our money to ASF and he will pay the proceeds to winner.

Deal. Pming ASF now. Will be on IRC later tonight.

flogger you care to bet with me, you are supposed to be a west coast high roller. put your $$ where your mouth is, hundy spot on this.

So this isn't happening? Damn, i want 100 bucks from Proteus.

(This comment is from Sanctuary slow rolling the hostile and taking a long time to declare. Nothing to do with anyone backing out)

War happens. AMA wins

Someone is going to lose $100 bucks.

Yeah what's the deal there? Not sure if cash ever saw play, but I see what looked to me like a gentleman's wager :)

Also I would like to congratulate Kuhan for winning his 100$ bet. Let's hope that Proteus is man of his word

Unlikely, prot. As far as I know neither player was able to contact ASF, so no money has changed hands and Proteus will cancel the bet on a technicality ;)

ASF ignored all my PMs before war started. Im betting proteus was telling him to scam me and he didnt want to, so i guess atleast i didnt get scammed.

saD.

End of thread. Beginning of 4 years of #PayKuhan



Ps please don't make me go through old threads. It's truly heartbreaking seeing all those old names :(

[flogger]

As a yellow member and someone with a respectable profession, it would seem to me that after he vouched for proteus on the other thread, Aquaseafoam should assume Proteus's obvious debt in this situation.

#paykuhan

Sidenote: I made a playful post teasing Binar and Proteus 2 weeks ago for being cocky after going from never succeeding to magically suceeding when joining abs kds, Proteus responded back "What's with the forum hate, Mad I make more than you?" which resulted in me saying I'd give him a freeroll of $500 if true (it's not) with some proof of say his last year's tax return. He said that'd be easy, just has to redact some info. Haven't heard back.

If I'm wrong, I'm out less than I spent treating BB'ers on wagyu steak 2 months ago in Vegas. #multiplewitnesses

#ImCaughtInMyOwnWebOfLies



#paykuhan to collect. Should be an easy $400

[Maximo]

This was supposed to be the summer of Flogger!

[flogger]

This was supposed to be the summer of Flogger!

Maximo, why do you equate eating a giant block of cheese with some sort of bachelor paradise?

[astron]

flog's massive income does not result in him knowing how computers work, so he posted in our channel about how to post logs so here it is

[Darkz Azn]

As a member of Sanctuary at the time ... I was laughing when we lost to Ama, cuz proteus has to paid .... little did i know, kuhan still haven't received his lump sum side bet =\

[Mansoor]

I still owe SWEA poeple Dinner =(

[astron]

It's ramadan, don't think about food

[Elit]

When kids do bets they ask other "did you have money" and use neutral person in middle for keep them. In our story we don't have Kids and both Kuhan/Proteus are supposed to have money. ASF is not neutral party too.
During this war i had ex KD mate bet 100 credits on us, he have won his bet and donated all credits to me. They didn't use man i middle. I remember other people doing bests and pay with credits. I think one from them was Goodz?

In modern days every one, special ppl in USA have Pay Pal account and pay with it is easy. I cant understand why some one need to suffer for 4 years over bet for 100 dollars when he can afford to pay it.

[Elit]

I still owe SWEA poeple Dinner =(

Should i worry for dinner you offered me if came to Busan? :P

[Meeni]

Checking in for a sec to thank flogger for the bomb dinner that night and to voice my support. #Paykuhan. Man's gotta live in the bay area and it's pretty expensive. Least you could do with your janitorial position @Proteus

[Korp]

Palem tell us not to troll Proteus and then creates a whole thread dedicate to trolling Proteus ...

[Elit]

Palem tell us not to troll Proteus and then creates a whole thread dedicate to trolling Proteus ...

Only way to move on from this topic is to back in time how and when it started. I don't see Palem post like troll but more like chance for Proteus to finish it
I don't have any intention to troll Proteus too. My advice to him is to simple pay so no one can keep talk about this.

[Judge]

Palem tell us not to troll Proteus and then creates a whole thread dedicate to trolling Proteus ...

He told yoou not to troll in that other thread. You are free to troll him here :)

[Elit]

Thanks Palem for this topic its was fun to re read drama from my last 1:1 war with ABS/Sanctuary. I see Dorje spend much time to accuse us for abuse some bug and its why he loss but he was victim on his knowledge on game mechanic. Main difference from how im play and rest leaders is i don't bother with complicated math. Here is proven stufs what work and what dont. Sanctuary did 2 big mistakes and its why they loss his war. 1. They had run 0 WTS and expect double fort stance+dragons will help them but its clear this wont work vs 9 halfings. And can you tell me what is going to do halfing in long hostile if he don't rob? All rest ops doing basically zero dmg in double fort.
2.Second and main mistake was for Sanctuary going long hostile and not rush for war. They had advantage in pure power=more attackers big gold advantage and better pumped result from specific age situation. AMA had gold for 2-3 dragons and Sanc for like 10+. In fast war gold wont be factor and halalling will be doing main black ops so its guarantee Sanc ability to train/feed/pay his army till all war. War will be very hard for us and Sanc was favorite to win it but still unpredictable.

What was result from Sanc bad strategy for prolong hostile? They loss all his gold and start have problem to pay his army. No money for dragons no feed. chain prov+gc starve and its out from war till we had ability for feed your chained. With masive T power here is not UB for us too. War was decided in hostile.