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[Elit]

I think BB when flogger and Protector was together was good Kingdom, because both cover his weakness. If we have value 100 from sum flogger and Protector when they split its like 35 for both from them. Not effective.

Second i was sad when CJ and Nesta split too. I liked them both and they was good team together. Not sure what so "important" they had to argue but i prefer when game make ppl to stay together with friends not split.

About farm out flogger, you and BB have your fair share for this problem. when this was done to AMA you being ally was way to passive to help us and fight vs it. Age when Pew Pew farmed out, Petrified told me he will GB us when he entered in his second arranged war with Stripers and we hit Stripers. I spend many hours talking with him past 2 ages to know him good enough he will do it. Its why We decide to wave Pew Pew OOW for what they did but its was BB and Protector come to me and convince me how Pew Pew WONT MAKE ANY ****S. So we decide to stay away and prepare for war with SWEA. Its resulted Pew Pew explore all his pool and prepare to GB us OOW during war with SWEA. Simians was perfect aware for this plan too. Wonder if none from BB was aware too? So when we found out about it we waved Pew Pew but was so late they had arranged his farm out with SWEA. When all BS start what did BB? NOTING. Its was key age what legalize farm out and abuse game mechanic and run in "arrange wars". From here every new age become worse and worse. Devs/support did noting to stop cheating. Dealing with this BS age after age ALONE is one from reasons to stop play.

[Judge]

I think BB when flogger and Protector was together was good Kingdom, because both cover his weakness. If we have value 100 from sum flogger and Protector when they split its like 35 for both from them. Not effective.

Second i was sad when CJ and Nesta split too. I liked them both and they was good team together. Not sure what so "important" they had to argue but i prefer when game make ppl to stay together with friends not split.

About farm out flogger, you and BB have your fair share for this problem. when this was done to AMA you being ally was way to passive to help us and fight vs it. Age when Pew Pew farmed out, Petrified told me he will GB us when he entered in his second arranged war with Stripers and we hit Stripers. I spend many hours talking with him past 2 ages to know him good enough he will do it. Its why We decide to wave Pew Pew OOW for what they did but its was BB and Protector come to me and convince me how Pew Pew WONT MAKE ANY ****S. So we decide to stay away and prepare for war with SWEA. Its resulted Pew Pew explore all his pool and prepare to GB us OOW during war with SWEA. Simians was perfect aware for this plan too. Wonder if none from BB was aware too? So when we found out about it we waved Pew Pew but was so late they had arranged his farm out with SWEA. When all BS start what did BB? NOTING. Its was key age what legalize farm out and abuse game mechanic and run in "arrange wars". From here every new age become worse and worse. Devs/support did noting to stop cheating. Dealing with this BS age after age ALONE is one from reasons to stop play.

The main issue out here is that nobody stands up to fairplay unless and until its favorable for them. So nobody gets actioned!

[Elit]

The main issue out here is that nobody stands up to fairplay unless and until its favorable for them. So nobody gets actioned!

Its true but same people play, so i cant understand why its so hard all to start play with abit more honor and care less about chart. Here is zero value in win with cheat/chart shape or force competitors to give up all age with lame deals 70% range or so. Its kill effective age for both KDs involved in top + set unbalance because they have noting to do from mess with smaller kingdoms rest from age. If you have won yr3-4 advantage/war vs your competitor give him long CF 4-5 weeks so you can have again final battle yr 9-10 before age end. You can loss 1 crown but you will have fun/what to do all age. If you won its will have much more value too.

[Judge]

Its true but same people play, so i cant understand why its so hard all to start play with abit more honor and care less about chart. Here is zero value in win with cheat/chart shape or force competitors to give up all age with lame deals 70% range or so. Its kill effective age for both KDs involved in top + set unbalance because they have noting to do from mess with smaller kingdoms rest from age. If you have won yr3-4 advantage/war vs your competitor give him long CF 4-5 weeks so you can have again final battle yr 9-10 before age end. You can loss 1 crown but you will have fun/what to do all age. If you won its will have much more value too.

Nobody had the guts to do it before and neither can do it now! This feels good to hear but apart from that, only crown has value.

[Korp]

They got punished for the fake war Elit can't deny that you just throw childish tantrums cause you didn't like the punishment.

[Elit]

They got punished for the fake war Elit can't deny that you just throw childish tantrums cause you didn't like the punishment.

Here is noting childish in my point. Punish was not proper. Chart shape worked, after it here was not punish at all next incoming ages. Its why i say its when start and was legalized include from devs. When this kind play i legal here is zero point to compete=play. Any time any age some hatter can shape chart and kill your 10 weeks effort. Why you need to waste your time when its repeat again and again? Its only bring most shady part from every one to try his ""best" in this world on compete.

[Elit]

Nobody had the guts to do it before and neither can do it now! This feels good to hear but apart from that, only crown has value.

Its only natural if you get power played to do it back so its closed circle and very hard to get out. Hate is just grow more.

[CFH]

BB is the best KD ever! show some respect! damn scrubs.
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[MyNameIsMatija]

I agree with you. You are from Croatia. Hello there :)

[StratOcastle]

Here is noting childish in my point. Punish was not proper. Chart shape worked, after it here was not punish at all next incoming ages. Its why i say its when start and was legalized include from devs. When this kind play i legal here is zero point to compete=play. Any time any age some hatter can shape chart and kill your 10 weeks effort. Why you need to waste your time when its repeat again and again? Its only bring most shady part from every one to try his ""best" in this world on compete.

It is a shame. So many of us who are proponents of whoring see no point in pursuing the crown, or joining the top in any meaningful way. Here you just pointed out a very solid reason to stay out of the top. I'm built for BS but it's not why I game. One can be totally free to do as they like in Utopia.

My main interest is the mechanics of the top, but those will surely deteriorate if BS rules.

[Sheister]

It is very difficult to stay motivated when every age you have one of (if not the) best start and every age it is a question of who gets the early farm-war or who gets to eat the newest kingdom first and that largely determines who wins the crown.

What worked to counter that this age was the growth that happened earlier that made for more war targets early. there were (for the first three weeks) about three viable targets for just about everyone. Unfortunately, two of those were garunteed to run away from you because for some assinine reason in this game, kingdoms in range can decide to not war. Emeriti being able to self raze (which I am not judging) removed acres that were needed to balance conflicts in the top. It was inevitable that once they did that, some sort of **** play was going to happen with the remaining competitors. As soon as they did that, I went almost completely inactive to wait for the next age.

What does not work is the pool limitation once targets run out. You can't build TM's back. You can't grow top provinces to match competitors, you are locked into a linear rung system that you have no way to shift the dynamics in outside of ****play.

I harp about the individual pool decision because, to me, being able to use your pool wisely at least gives a kingdom a chance to work some strategy to counter **** play. Without that, there is nothing that can be done other than to engage in ****play yourself.

Kingdoms need more options to shape their provinces to meet threats, not fewer ones. Unfortunately everything I have in my head that could be used in the current mechanics to do that is something that would be highly abusable, so I don't make the suggestions.

[StratOcastle]

Depending on a moral basis, one can be motivated to function outside the norm.

Essentially the scenario this age requires escalation(to remain fun). The wall went down, Absalom dissipated, but the spirit is still alive. It's different now except for the players. You can look at ex-KGB as current organized crime and thus.

Down here in the field we have plenty of room for whatever happens. In D&D we had such meta as the top and it made the game inhospitable. I've talked about this before. The inability to breath, take a step back, add a splash of water to your scotch, makes being hardheaded a waste of your entire kingdoms time.

You guys need to open it up a bit and I recommend 'in game' violence. We got a lot of dwarves that haven't met enough orcs, undeads and dryads. No I'm not supposing dwarves would lose under duress, I'm talking about the effervescence of action. Look for it. If it was a snake...

[Proteus]

Here is noting childish in my point. Punish was not proper. Chart shape worked, after it here was not punish at all next incoming ages. Its why i say its when start and was legalized include from devs. When this kind play i legal here is zero point to compete=play. Any time any age some hatter can shape chart and kill your 10 weeks effort. Why you need to waste your time when its repeat again and again? Its only bring most shady part from every one to try his ""best" in this world on compete.

There was a massive chart shape last age and no one did anything about it, in fact people supported it because they did not want to see a kd win 4 crowns in a row

[Pillz]

There was a massive chart shape last age and no one did anything about it, in fact people supported it because they did not want to see a kd win 4 crowns in a row

A situation you precipitated by threatening to gb RoO for wanting to war MEGA

[MyNameIsMatija]

There was a massive chart shape last age and no one did anything about it, in fact people supported it because they did not want to see a kd win 4 crowns in a row

Nah. People wanted to see the kingdom that **** played its way to a triple crown dead so they settled for it not being a quad.

Edit:
Yeah... The top really is chicken... Instead of a proper gangbang this is the lameness that we get. Most don't even get to participate.