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    Quote Originally Posted by coss View Post
    We already had @ 300 k gc stocked per province. Elite on human at 115% BE with 20% arms in prosperous is 390 gc/elite or so. You can do your calculation on your own for rest I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    We havent changed anything in our nattative. How many times do I need to say this: We came OOP on 0 offense with soldiers and gc stocked. right OOP we stole gc from inactives with our 2-2.5 tpa that we had on every province, released 500 def specs for more soldiers (those that stole enough gc to retrain 500 def specs to elites on top of their stored soldiers), entered prosperous stance and put between 700-1300 elites in training depending on how much u stole. That made us look like a weak opponent and easy farm OOP, but anyone taking proper intel and doing some maths could figure out we would have 1500 elites 12h later and 2k 24h later and so on. And we had stables, rax and tgs build already so it was clear we would be fight ready after 12h. To us 8:6 seemed like a cocky ghetto thinking they could farm us cause they had offense OOP and we not and they couldnt see 24h ahead. Should we not war someone in range OOP that taunt us because they cant see the long term picture?

    We werent afraid to enter war cause we could night strike them to hell right away and hit their all solider inactives after a few hours as offense came in. Its a strategic choice. Nowhere does it say you have to have offense right when you enter war. We had kickass tpa to use right away. We chose a strategy that gave us all elite offense right away (with better econ then going with more spec army). Several kds have used that strategy before OOP, its not news. We were in no hurry to go all off specs and into a slugfest right OOP cause human sages suck at that. Like Coss said. If you know strategy you know the advantages of our choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by coss View Post
    For everyone talking sh!t in here:

    We have nothing to do with this. We reported it to David ourselves and stopped hitting them. I hope admins do the right thing and stop the war soon cause these noobs(aka barta apparently) are just being a pain in the a$$ and try to do ops and do abducts. It is no interest for us to farm anyone and asked David to remove all the land we took:

    - Traditional march: 56 (881 acres)

    Overall this hurts us more than it helps us as soon as we do not benefit from Prosperous stance and we released quite some troops to get in war range.

    Hope this clears things out for now and owners of the game solve this asap!

    PS: not 100% sure it's bart who did this but if it's him he should be banned from joining this game again, and same should happen to anyone that is destroying this game and the fun for others!
    that's just one. Other changes include it was some random nub kingdom and you thought, why not. You thought it was a kingdom that gave you a hard time last age and you were going to give them a lesson.
    On the other hand, and you didn't say that, it could have simply been a friendly willing kingdom lending a helping hand because you wanted to avoid a real war?
    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeLeague View Post
    You talking about 7:6 vs 8:6?

    I only know they rejected a genuine war invitation from 6:6. They claimed they can whore more than 5k acres without going into OOP war which doesn't benefit them. Next thing I know, they are in WAR. Wonder who they are? Definitely a whoring kingdom perhaps with a spy planted in 8:6. Seem like one of the Bart favorite move
    Quote Originally Posted by coss View Post
    As it turned to be a "farmout war" and we do not hit and will probably be pushed out naked in the big bad world do you think it benefits us?

    They hit us 3x and started to send cheese messages about how we are hiding under NW difference not to get raped and sh!t like that. Ofc we went for it to rape their a$$es. Or we should just eat the hits from them and not go for war where we can crush em easy as soon as we were sitting on 3 tpa raw? I don't think this game should become something where a smaller kd can do hits and make fun of a bigger kd and the big one to just swallow hits and jokes afraid of not being sanctioned cause some noobs think it's fun to destroy it for others. For what it's worth, the war from a technical point of view is legit. If we decided to report it and stop hits till it's resolved that's another story.
    IF you were gaining so much in this war and it was a legit war as coss claims, why even report it at all? If it was a legit war, what exactly did you report it for?
    "Hey big daddy the utopian monster may play in this kingdom we have a legit war with and might later on claim it was fake"?

    Quote Originally Posted by coss View Post
    We stopped hits AFTER speaking with David.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    We came OOP on zero offense so of course it wasnt planned. To us, it looked like a ghetto trying to get easy acres by hitting and offering war to a kd with 0 offense all across the kd. Of course we trained some off OOP (elites) with stocked sols/gc and planned to train alot the coming 24h in prosperous stance and pump build.

    We figured we would get hit OOP and explored land the hour before coming OOP to cover the land we expected to lose, hoping to get a few buttons to use once trained up. That some ghetto comes and hit our faeries together with another kd and offers war seemed like a better version of staying oow pumping and getting buttons (in this scenario we got a button/war right away, lose some land first day and take it back the next day then pump in eowcf instead of prosperous stance).

    Unfortunately it turned out to be Bart possibly wanting to chartshape or just mess with the game/admins, which I was told by friends after the declaration. We then tried to get in contact with admins to get advice on what to do (holding hits while getting an answer) and Coss told David that he didnt mind getting the war nullified and the acres taken in the war retracted (which in total would mean we lose out as we lost the chance to robb inactives OOP with our 2-2.5 raw tpa and pump cheap elites). Once 8:6 started hitting us again upon their troops returning, we started hitting back as we arent planning on getting set back cause someone offers us a war.

    Doubt anyone else would have acted differently.

    The admins can also easily read the ingame messages between coss and the monarch of 8:6 (Bart?), plus there is witnesses in 8:6 that can attest to the fact we had no idea who it was and that this wasnt planned. It just turned bad as the story of 8:6 unfolded.

    I know how it looks from the outside thou so I dont judge anyone for crying foul play. I would had cried fw too if I just looked at it from the outside having no inside information. Hopefully the issue is resolved by the admins soon as we dont want this to taint our age.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    If you took an sn you can also see we couldn't even hit for the first 2-3h of war. We did train 2 tpa on the whole KD for oop and released 500 def specs and trained 800-1300 elites first hour in prosperous stance oop with gc we stocked and stole plus soldiers we saved up.

    Then we got hit and got the war offer.

    After 2-3h of war we nsed their all soldier and no thieves inactives provs and hit them on land def. After 5-6h we got offense to hit their suicide attackers on 4K def. Hardly very impressive first day of war but better than nothing.

    I'm sure admins will look into it and make the right decision. And as I said in my previous post; Can't blame people for thinking it looks suspicious cause it does. But if you know me and Coss you know we would never set up a farm war.

    Still haters gonna hate and trolls gonna troll but everyone I have talked to so far understand the situation and don't think we did anything wrong and that's enough for me. As long as my friends believe us I'm good


    so glad y'all agree on how the story went...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwitch View Post
    that's just one. Other changes include it was some random nub kingdom and you thought, why not. You thought it was a kingdom that gave you a hard time last age and you were going to give them a lesson.
    On the other hand, and you didn't say that, it could have simply been a friendly willing kingdom lending a helping hand because you wanted to avoid a real war?



    IF you were gaining so much in this war and it was a legit war as coss claims, why even report it at all? If it was a legit war, what exactly did you report it for?
    "Hey big daddy the utopian monster may play in this kingdom we have a legit war with and might later on claim it was fake"?




    so glad y'all agree on how the story went...

    Are you just Dumb or Dumber?

    The post clearly states that They were waiting for admin to react. But after seeing this in forums 8:6 made additional hits to which they went ahead and started hitting again.

    1) They came oop with a very legit strat with humans
    2) They stole gcs and had massive elites in training
    3) They got a few hits on them and they offered war to which it was accepted.
    4) They entered war and started to NS their soldiers till their offence came in.
    5) They understood from IRC that this is bart with some proof(?)
    6) They reported this to the admins/mods and were waiting for some legit outcome
    7) 8:6 then went ahead and made some hits and this actually led to Sleepy making more hits from their end which they had initially stopped.

    Is it so easy for you to NOT UNDERSTAND basic sentences?

    Your only point is them releasing 500 soldiers to get in war range or train elites. So yes its definitely a bait move to get buttons as people will hit you on low defence.

    Like Coss said. YOU & Strategy are 2 different things!
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    Might as well ignore Goodwitch, shes on a crusade against "top people" and she will do anything to land a punch.

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    I noticed a lot of kingdoms don't even have a drama strat.

    At least I've been working on my standard diplomatic rebuttal:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Might as well ignore Goodwitch, shes on a crusade against "top people" and she will do anything to land a punch.
    Is this my Lucky day that we both are agreeing on things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenith View Post
    Tricking noobs into a farmwar oop may be ****ty but hardly cheating.

    I guess the problem is that theres too much to gain from farmwars. Its pretty easy to cause one and its hard to action them as fake wars without somewhat arbitrary actioning.
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    I will have to agree with Korp, however much it hurts :)
    Goodwitch is talking out of her ass. It gets old real fast.

    @Goodwitch you have no idea what happened here, that is a fact. Why do you insist on using your own theories as some kind of universal truth? They are just that, unsupported speculations.

    You are arguing with ppl who actually play in the kd in question - its a loosing battle.

    Let the admins decide and stop ranting pls.

    And no i dont play with coss/shai/freaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    Are you just Dumb or Dumber?

    The post clearly states that They were waiting for admin to react. But after seeing this in forums 8:6 made additional hits to which they went ahead and started hitting again.

    1) They came oop with a very legit strat with humans
    2) They stole gcs and had massive elites in training
    3) They got a few hits on them and they offered war to which it was accepted.
    4) They entered war and started to NS their soldiers till their offence came in.
    5) They understood from IRC that this is bart with some proof(?)
    6) They reported this to the admins/mods and were waiting for some legit outcome
    7) 8:6 then went ahead and made some hits and this actually led to Sleepy making more hits from their end which they had initially stopped.

    Is it so easy for you to NOT UNDERSTAND basic sentences?

    Your only point is them releasing 500 soldiers to get in war range or train elites. So yes its definitely a bait move to get buttons as people will hit you on low defence.

    Like Coss said. YOU & Strategy are 2 different things!
    (holding hits while getting an answer) ...that one does

    Quote Originally Posted by coss :
    We stopped hits AFTER speaking with David...this one doesn't.

    speaking with someone is something different than sending a message and waiting for a reply. Just like pressing the button is different than proposing war. Just like a random nub kingdom with a big mouth and a kingdom they had beef with from last age are very different. Just like planning to drop 500 def specs to train elites and dropping 500 def specs to get into war range are different, same effect different motivation. Just like claiming it's a legit war and reporting it as fake war are different.
    I am not saying it's fake or it's not fake. But if you want people to believe your narrative at least get your stories straight.

    @korp..why should he if you won't? I was almost proud of you for something productive you posted earlier, how disappointing that it was a fleeting thing. I speak up for fairness and for what I think is good for the game. Really not concerned with who disagrees with me, I don't come here to lick boots in return for favors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwitch View Post
    (holding hits while getting an answer) ...that one does

    Quote Originally Posted by coss :
    We stopped hits AFTER speaking with David...this one doesn't.

    speaking with someone is something different than sending a message and waiting for a reply. Just like pressing the button is different than proposing war. Just like a random nub kingdom with a big mouth and a kingdom they had beef with from last age are very different. Just like planning to drop 500 def specs to train elites and dropping 500 def specs to get into war range are different, same effect different motivation. Just like claiming it's a legit war and reporting it as fake war are different.
    I am not saying it's fake or it's not fake. But if you want people to believe your narrative at least get your stories straight.

    @korp..why should he if you won't? I was almost proud of you for something productive you posted earlier, how disappointing that it was a fleeting thing. I speak up for fairness and for what I think is good for the game. Really not concerned with who disagrees with me, I don't come here to lick boots in return for favors.
    Fairness? You are nitpicking. You think trying to bash people that did eseentially the right thing is good for the game? You think spewing out lies about how the top operates feeding people that dont have any clue your delusions about how the top works a good thing? You have a very twisted sense of what is good for the game.


    that's just one. Other changes include it was some random nub kingdom and you thought, why not. You thought it was a kingdom that gave you a hard time last age and you were going to give them a lesson.
    On the other hand, and you didn't say that, it could have simply been a friendly willing kingdom lending a helping hand because you wanted to avoid a real war?
    Take here for example that you are unable to understand the context. Shai is describing their strat and coss was describing their actions in the situation. You cant compare apples with pears.

    IF you were gaining so much in this war and it was a legit war as coss claims, why even report it at all? If it was a legit war, what exactly did you report it for?
    "Hey big daddy the utopian monster may play in this kingdom we have a legit war with and might later on claim it was fake"?
    So I guess if you suspect a something afool you would just ignore it and grab as much acres as you can? Pretty ironic consider how you try to bash all the top kds..

    so glad y'all agree on how the story went...
    Yet again unable to grasp context. coss is describing outcomes from their strategy.

    So essentially nothing that you write contradicts their claims.

    Also, you are biased nothing that you write is off worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCurious View Post
    Zomg.... who let you out ?! :)
    I dont know! But its really mean :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    Are you just Dumb or Dumber?

    The post clearly states that They were waiting for admin to react. But after seeing this in forums 8:6 made additional hits to which they went ahead and started hitting again.

    1) They came oop with a very legit strat with humans
    2) They stole gcs and had massive elites in training
    3) They got a few hits on them and they offered war to which it was accepted.
    4) They entered war and started to NS their soldiers till their offence came in.
    5) They understood from IRC that this is bart with some proof(?)
    6) They reported this to the admins/mods and were waiting for some legit outcome
    7) 8:6 then went ahead and made some hits and this actually led to Sleepy making more hits from their end which they had initially stopped.

    Is it so easy for you to NOT UNDERSTAND basic sentences?

    Your only point is them releasing 500 soldiers to get in war range or train elites. So yes its definitely a bait move to get buttons as people will hit you on low defence.

    Like Coss said. YOU & Strategy are 2 different things!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freaka View Post
    Dude, I don't know you, I don't know where you from, I don't even care, but I like you!
    You have brains and you use them wisely!
    We were the first ones to use this strategy successfully (lately)

    I was just part of leadership then but i guess it was dorje/asf/zerocool behind that strat (I was in Emeriti then). I am not sure if Binar and Proteus were in then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwitch View Post
    (holding hits while getting an answer) ...that one does

    Quote Originally Posted by coss :
    We stopped hits AFTER speaking with David...this one doesn't.

    speaking with someone is something different than sending a message and waiting for a reply. Just like pressing the button is different than proposing war. Just like a random nub kingdom with a big mouth and a kingdom they had beef with from last age are very different. Just like planning to drop 500 def specs to train elites and dropping 500 def specs to get into war range are different, same effect different motivation. Just like claiming it's a legit war and reporting it as fake war are different.
    I am not saying it's fake or it's not fake. But if you want people to believe your narrative at least get your stories straight.

    @korp..why should he if you won't? I was almost proud of you for something productive you posted earlier, how disappointing that it was a fleeting thing. I speak up for fairness and for what I think is good for the game. Really not concerned with who disagrees with me, I don't come here to lick boots in return for favors.
    Seriously My doubts are getting clearer and clearer for the first sentence I made on my previous post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    We were the first ones to use this strategy successfully (lately)

    I was just part of leadership then but i guess it was dorje/asf/zerocool behind that strat (I was in Emeriti then). I am not sure if Binar and Proteus were in then.
    That's it. My recollection was Godly disliked that strat; found it risky.

    @ Goodwitch. It's ok,. Maintain the Drama Beams! ZZZZZAP! - One could argue that anything the top does is conducted, not unlike wrestling. Yes, I made the wrestling comparo again.

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