Need a genesis Server

[Mansoor]

I am so bored man. WoL is warring and **** and waiting for nubs to pump and do rituals. I just want a server where I can whore and war in a small 5-7 player kingdom that doesn't take time to lead or organize. That would be so much fun. I wonder how long time it is gonna take. One would think from business point of view that they can make more money with credits and stuff on genesis server too. People logging in more. Genesis server could have ads and stuff. Just bloody do it.

[merunuh]

Yes, please. Let's do this. Soon. Please.

[coss]

I approve!

[StratOcastle]

You should go take my place in Glory(micro-kingdom). You don't need a whole server to get a 7 province kingdom.

While the wall and certain other mechanics were designed to discourage an esoteric playing style, I think there's potential for a different style of playing Utopia. Once the big kingdoms get use to the gains to nw advantages, small kingdoms have, I think a separate cloud of kingdoms could exist. Similar to whoring, the micro-kingdoms by virtue of mechanical advantage could sustain a culture in the post 100 rating zone.

In other words, a genesis server is here if we want to use it. I was in a micro-kingdom to relax, but the potential for high quality, hyperactive warring is viable. My additional interest is in combining these micro-kingdoms into what I call The Virtual Kingdom. It's a long story.

[Goodgame]

It would definitely help prevent the imbalanced and thoughtless changes we got this past age. I thought they'd be thinking of changes to do all age and come out with a well thought out, balanced set... but instead it looked like the scribbled down ideas real late the night before. A genesis server would be real helpful for them to try out these harebrained ideas and catch the mayhem before it goes live.

[Madchess]

besides the warring that is what we do in the shell, if they had stopped forcing merges at EoA I'm sure a lot of kingdoms wold have an equal number of players and potentially be in warring range, as it is the only kingdom in range with an actual king is the African Druglords.

As king of a shell on 5 provinces there is a lot of ghetto kingdoms that tries to take a shot at us or threthen to FSU because we dare to retaliate them, but once we outgrow the core of ghetto tier and war tier things quiet down some.

[StratOcastle]

My intuition tells me this would vacillate around the 5 province range. The reason I wouldn't just name a number off the cuff is because it's not a well known frontier. A few of us have operated in low numbers time to time.

The good thing is that the warring isn't based in typical war kingdom style. Like Madchess pointed out, you can get into some epic size ranges and you're working in a tight nit environment with players who should know the nuances.

Really, this is just a cultural decision. Nothing more complicated than applying what you know without dragging 20 doe-eyed provinces with you. Now, I like doe-eyes but it's on the sidelines during adult swim.

[Pillz]

We need an xlogging server. Just allow provinces to enable xlogging in preferences and implement a login script for monarch/steward/appointed xloggers.

Ideally this would be the games main server, WoL, and you can have gen for the prissy no xlogging losers.

[Korp]

Wouldnt the losers be the xloggers cause they cant play the game without resorting to cheating ?

[Judge]

Wouldnt the losers be the xloggers cause they cant play the game without resorting to cheating ?

So Finally Spartans would win in this server?

[Pillz]

Wouldnt the losers be the xloggers cause they cant play the game without resorting to cheating ?

Being able to run 25 provinces better than 1 is not cheating though. If anything the game intentionally gimps us to give you an advantage.

[Xist]

I thought you dont play in serious kds Tom, is this the 1 of 10 thing? =)

It would be loads of fun to have a genesis server running again, minus the alliances ruining it :(

You should go take my place in Glory(micro-kingdom). You don't need a whole server to get a 7 province kingdom.

While the wall and certain other mechanics were designed to discourage an esoteric playing style, I think there's potential for a different style of playing Utopia. Once the big kingdoms get use to the gains to nw advantages, small kingdoms have, I think a separate cloud of kingdoms could exist. Similar to whoring, the micro-kingdoms by virtue of mechanical advantage could sustain a culture in the post 100 rating zone.

In other words, a genesis server is here if we want to use it. I was in a micro-kingdom to relax, but the potential for high quality, hyperactive warring is viable. My additional interest is in combining these micro-kingdoms into what I call The Virtual Kingdom. It's a long story.

[realm of ding dong]

I'd love another Genesis server, just to screw around and play with mechanics. I can't do that if I play in a serious kingdom, but I also don't want to play in some unorganized ghetto. I want to do both!

[Mansoor]

No wonder they aren't in a hurry for a genesis server. 12 posts and double post from korp and steel...jeez.

[StratOcastle]

I thought you dont play in serious kds Tom, is this the 1 of 10 thing? =)

It would be loads of fun to have a genesis server running again, minus the alliances ruining it :(

I have to play in serious kingdoms on rare occasions to see if what I think I can do is plausible at the highest level. At the same time this allows me to see current mechanics since most casual kingdoms subscribe to staid stratagems.

This is important because you'll note the strategy forum isn't really feeding the need. While it's a risk to free expression, I've recommended players that truly want to learn strategy, without droning in competitive kingdoms, read the suggestion threads. It's here where players can piece together actual deep strategy interests by following debates.

Frankly, I don't read the suggestion thread very deeply. I enjoy the mystery of the game but have stumbled on some game changing knowledge that you simply don't see in the strategy forum. Most players don't want to share their bread & butter, but get wind of the devs nerfing something they love and they can hardly help themselves. Some debates(in all forums) are counter to actual belief because misguiding others is beneficial. Thus, having a sense for what aims the poster represents requires mild paranoia and spacial awareness.

The short answer is, I agree.

The reason I enjoy micro-kingdoms is locking horns with players of all levels without fear mongers begging for CFs. The Genesis server would address this interest. The micro-kingdoms are doable now and still retain enough benefits that a top culture could thrive without punishing the casual kingdoms for occasional transgressions. My doctrine dictates retaliating the most powerful kingdoms over the least. I like the old war kingdoms and let more of their random attacks go without retal.

My proposal, if a casual kingdom continually hits into the micros you have several micro-kingdoms message polite warnings. If hits continue you eliminate the exact problem because there are trolls that try to ruin everyone's fun.