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    Remove the infinite honor generation loophole in war

    KD A and KD B both want lots of honor.



    KD A and KD B are fighting back and forth.



    KD A hits a prov from KD B down, and it becomes a peasant.


    KD A PK's the peasant prov that had 400 honor.

    KD B makes a new prov that now has 1800 honor.


    1400 honor is generated.

    Repeat x a week.



    Remove the loophole. Dead prov should restart at their old honor #.
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    At 2 provs per side/24 hrs there could be.... 5600 honor generated by 2 honor kds / 24h period.

    Absurd.
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    Maybe report them for abusing mechanics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    Maybe report them for abusing mechanics?
    It's not abuse. The game mechanics allow it, it's simply smart strategy.

    Abuse would circumvent a mechanic.

    In this case, the mechanics simply need to be changed.
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    Also, I am pretty sure any province created after freeze time starts with full honor rather than scaling in. It may be after protection, but new provinces certainly get this full benefit before any provinces who was created Pre-Age ever can.

    Having your honor rating kinda linked to your profile rather than province, age to age would make sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovenmitt View Post
    It's not abuse. The game mechanics allow it, it's simply smart strategy.

    Abuse would circumvent a mechanic.

    In this case, the mechanics simply need to be changed.
    No. That is not the president for being actioned for abusing mechanics. If nothing else, going to war with someone where both sides are purposely doing this is a fake war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    No. That is not the president for being actioned for abusing mechanics. If nothing else, going to war with someone where both sides are purposely doing this is a fake war.
    *Precedent

    Your opinions on abuse do not make something abuse, and are wholly irrelevant. If the mechanics allow it, it is allowed. Doesn't make it a fake war. Just generates (a lot) more honor for the winning kingdom (and losing one, for that matter)
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    Your opinion is as irrelevant ovenmitt
    The fact that abusing mechanics is against the rule proves you wrong already. If that wasnt the case fake wars would be allowed as well since they are possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Your opinion is as irrelevant ovenmitt
    The fact that abusing mechanics is against the rule proves you wrong already. If that wasnt the case fake wars would be allowed as well since they are possible.
    You're missing what I'm getting at. This is possible in a completely legitimate war, it's simply a byproduct of killing provinces. It should be adjusted.
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    Abusing mechanics isn't legal though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Abusing mechanics isn't legal though.
    It happens whether its abuse or not, which is the problem.

    If I kill a 400 honor prov in the enemy kingdom to gain advantage, i just generated 1400 honor for the war as a byproduct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovenmitt View Post
    At 2 provs per side/24 hrs there could be.... 5600 honor generated by 2 honor kds / 24h period.

    Absurd.
    Protection in war is 72 hours and most wars don't last that long. if you'd see a 2 kingdoms running a war where they're cycling 6 provs per side in order to enrich the other 19 provinces on each side the abuse would be obvious pretty quickly.
    And as it's definitely "manipulating the quirks of the game in a manner obviously not intended" it's against the rules and would likely be punished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elldallan View Post
    Protection in war is 72 hours and most wars don't last that long. if you'd see a 2 kingdoms running a war where they're cycling 6 provs per side in order to enrich the other 19 provinces on each side the abuse would be obvious pretty quickly.
    And as it's definitely "manipulating the quirks of the game in a manner obviously not intended" it's against the rules and would likely be punished.
    Suppose its 1 per side/24h over a 10 day war. Still absurd honor generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elldallan View Post
    Protection in war is 72 hours and most wars don't last that long.
    What wars are you talking about lol
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