7:15 Suicide Squad

[Jammy Dodger]

June 23 of YR6 36,628 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 36,625 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 51,262 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,894 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,886 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,855 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,848 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,817 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ian Curtis (7:15) causing trouble within our lands!
June 23 of YR6 65,810 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,803 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,771 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
June 23 of YR6 65,763 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ian Curtis (7:15) causing trouble within our lands!
June 23 of YR6 65,764 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ian Curtis (7:15) causing trouble within our lands!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ian Curtis (7:15) causing trouble within our lands!
June 23 of YR6 105,884 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ian Curtis (7:15) causing trouble within our lands!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
June 23 of YR6 65,849 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,842 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ian Curtis (7:15) causing trouble within our lands!
June 23 of YR6 65,831 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
June 23 of YR6 65,832 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
June 23 of YR6 65,813 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!

WE are still in EOWCF-see below
April 22 of YR6 Kandis Recruiting has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!

Although it doesn’t make it all better - you can see stealing all in one tick exactly 24 hours before you came out of eowcf. I believe you had like 9/10 mil so if we had a strat to steal out of eowcf I don’t think it would have looked like that. Should have sent in game message when mistake was realised though

[Jammy Dodger]

Two points - on current conflict we offered CF to Mar 7 when war terms agreed and was outstanding until 23rd when it was withdrawn. Wasn’t involved in term discussion but my understanding was date and acre cap were only agreed terms. Not sure how much we stole, but then refusing cf seems to imply they wanted ops allowed. When they waved for land a few hours ago (out of retaliation I guess they are saying) they breached one of the only two terms which was the acre cap. They are already above the acre cap by about 2k acres and that is before the acres from their wave on us come in.

Second point on stealing into eowcf. This is not something we have decided to do. Would be interested to hear from the multiple kingdoms we did this to. On my part, I know I did this accidentally a few days ago where we had a kingdom flagged as exiting eowcf 24 hours too early. I suspect I wasn’t the only one in kingdom to make this mistake so I can understand the other kingdom being annoyed. I didn’t realise the mistake until 24 hours later when they popped up in targets again and had already spent what I stole. Given we were in ramp up for war I couldn’t offer anything currently but happy to contact the province I stole from and let them know when I’m next in eowcf with low thieves and lots of cash that they can take back what I took. Very much doubt that we have done this to multiple kingdoms

[Mansoor]

Lol so much ****talking.

I will write in 2 hours. Me and wife have GoT night so gotta prioritize that before i answer these dumb idiots.

[focalor]

Raze 'em all!

[s0830887]

Say whatever you want, Mansoor. Every word you have spoken to us this age has been toxic. Every thing you have done you've conventiently found some excuse for. You're so deep in the way you play that you can't even see it anymore. There is no conversation to be had with the self-righteous and the unreflective. You will not get a war from us - we'll just hunker down, go afk, and do whatever - idc. We have nothing to lose and nothing to gain.

[Poopsie]

Say whatever you want, Mansoor. Every word you have spoken to us this age has been toxic. Every thing you have done you've conventiently found some excuse for. You're so deep in the way you play that you can't even see it anymore. There is no conversation to be had with the self-righteous and the unreflective. You will not get a war from us - we'll just hunker down, go afk, and do whatever - idc. We have nothing to lose and nothing to gain.

Fight back and bring SS flag up!!! We will survive!!!

[7thghost]

I guess I should go get my popcorn now..

[s0830887]

Sheister - you glossed over my points, which confirms your FSU attitude - which you'll notice I said is fine. FSU, idc, it's just a game. What DOES bother me is the accusations of foul play, as I'm a long time warring-tier level monarch and, as you no doubt have been on the receiving end of and know quite well, **** sticks, even when it's nonsense. This environment also elevates gossip and drama over proof and truth, and I feel forced to fight this already-lost battle to defend my KD and the guys I play with, cos they're ****ing cool dudes who just wanna fight good wars and don't want anything to do with the dramatics.

[Sheister]

Sheister - you glossed over my points, which confirms your FSU attitude - which you'll notice I said is fine. FSU, idc, it's just a game. What DOES bother me is the accusations of foul play, as I'm a long time warring-tier level monarch and, as you no doubt have been on the receiving end of and know quite well, **** sticks, even when it's nonsense. This environment also elevates gossip and drama over proof and truth, and I feel forced to fight this already-lost battle to defend my KD and the guys I play with, cos they're ****ing cool dudes who just wanna fight good wars and don't want anything to do with the dramatics.

I used to lead a war KD and have been in the situation you say you are in.

IMHO, the solution you seek is to work out what you give to Mansoor's kingdom so it ends quickly. (Slinging barbs is useless for you, though cathartically satisfying to be sure) Find another war, grow. At this point Mansoor is probably fat and he will get waved by one of the chicken KD's who only wave fat kingdoms. When he loses that, you should be bigger and then you come back on him.

I fondly remember disbanding BiO over just such a situation several ages ago.

GL!

[7thghost]

Clearly not all of them, otherwise no one would have tried to steal gc :d

[focalor]

This thread needs more taylor swift

[MyNameIsMatija]

Reading this back I'm on the fence now. I was just going by the fact my KD had CF with 7:15, they like several other KDs waved into out hostile then CFed (what's funny though they broke it during a war of ours) and what I've read here. In their defense I'm not even sure that's what happened, first of all I don't know what sort of diplomacy was done because I wasn't monarch at the time (doesn't excuse them though, just because someone might not know about all the intricate deals people make within this game does not mean 7:15 has to abuse that fact). More importantly, it's a jungle out there, we have been learn waved and waves of one KD overlapping waves from other KDs pretty much all our oow time since I got here so who hit us when, I'm holding the whole server responsible and the way the game is played at the moment, this whole tier has no rules basically, none that I would hold a single KD accountable for. I will try to figure out a way to survive this jungle, not declaring war on the server, yet :)

[JusticeLeague]

Reading this back I'm on the fence now. I was just going by the fact my KD had CF with 7:15, they like several other KDs waved into out hostile then CFed (what's funny though they broke it during a war of ours) and what I've read here. In their defense I'm not even sure that's what happened, first of all I don't know what sort of diplomacy was done because I wasn't monarch at the time (doesn't excuse them though, just because someone might not know about all the intricate deals people make within this game does not mean 7:15 has to abuse that fact). More importantly, it's a jungle out there, we have been learn waved and waves of one KD overlapping waves from other KDs pretty much all our oow time since I got here so who hit us when, I'm holding the whole server responsible and the way the game is played at the moment, this whole tier has no rules basically, none that I would hold a single KD accountable for. I will try to figure out a way to survive this jungle, not declaring war on the server, yet :)

Can you spearhead the wave on the offenders? I think they need a tough lesson...Do not disgrace your Bart's Teaching....RK

[VanCanto]

As josh mentioned we have had a lot of problems with 2:1 this age. It started a month or so ago when we had an agreed war with CoL. Mansoor messaged me asking for war, which I declined saying we had a war with CoL planned and we're prepping for, and I even gave him date it was to start. He said that was cool, and good luck, then promptly stole all our GC we had stockpiled for prosp. Whatever, dinks will be dinks

Less than 24 hours before our start date, low and behold, 2:1 waved us for land, knowing we had a deal with CoL and when start date was. We again said we weren't going to war, and had to back out against CoL since we got hit with armies in, PF, BG, the whole ball game.

So we asked for CF, which 2:1 was gracious enough to grant, only after doing another full learn wave for "wasting there time"

This time war was agreed to at 53k acres with them. And March 21 start date. We started dragon, as most kds will do to dump GC in and have it payed for war start so you're not sitting on 11m GC for days, and get plundered. And we get a message, "to no dragons till war start CANCEL that ****" and yes one province did steal again about 2 mill. To which they responded with.... guess what!! Stealing our GC! So fair is fair.

Then they grew beyond the 53k, to about 54.6 or something, which we were still like, maybe they will get a landdrop on whatever province they want. Nope, just wanted to wave us anyways, and accuse us of bull****.

So whatever, we aren't going to war you, try to quit being dinks for the age, give us CF and move along.

[Mansoor]

As josh mentioned we have had a lot of problems with 2:1 this age. It started a month or so ago when we had an agreed war with CoL. Mansoor messaged me asking for war, which I declined saying we had a war with CoL planned and we're prepping for, and I even gave him date it was to start. He said that was cool, and good luck, then promptly stole all our GC we had stockpiled for prosp. Whatever, dinks will be dinks

Less than 24 hours before our start date, low and behold, 2:1 waved us for land, knowing we had a deal with CoL and when start date was. We again said we weren't going to war, and had to back out against CoL since we got hit with armies in, PF, BG, the whole ball game.

So we asked for CF, which 2:1 was gracious enough to grant, only after doing another full learn wave for "wasting there time"

This time war was agreed to at 53k acres with them. And March 21 start date. We started dragon, as most kds will do to dump GC in and have it payed for war start so you're not sitting on 11m GC for days, and get plundered. And we get a message, "to no dragons till war start CANCEL that ****" and yes one province did steal again about 2 mill. To which they responded with.... guess what!! Stealing our GC! So fair is fair.

Then they grew beyond the 53k, to about 54.6 or something, which we were still like, maybe they will get a landdrop on whatever province they want. Nope, just wanted to wave us anyways, and accuse us of bull****.

So whatever, we aren't going to war you, try to quit being dinks for the age, give us CF and move along.

Again Lies. Please show me ingame message where you told me when war would start? I was the one asking for details as i have been screwed over before where people say we have agreed war but just want to pump in peace. I asked which kd and where they located at and you gave me nothing Jon Snow! So stop this drama bull**** you chicken ****squad!