Bb vs em

[Smitty87]

Kinda sad how the only one talking in here is Sheister and no one is interfacing with him. Let’s face it no one cares about what’s going on, this isn’t even an actual hostile.

Sparta vs Sleepy is where the action is at.

Yup. If emeriti don't make a move soon it's game over. Sleepy and Sparta War and robins vulture for the win.

BB losing themselves the age playing such a long hostile too... but can't give button or ops I guess into that many hybrids... if they do an opening aw/nm wave by emeritus would be devastation. My 2c but could be wrong...

[Proteus]

Yup. If emeriti don't make a move soon it's game over. Sleepy and Sparta War and robins vulture for the win.

BB losing themselves the age playing such a long hostile too... but can't give button or ops I guess into that many hybrids... if they do an opening aw/nm wave by emeritus would be devastation. My 2c but could be wrong...

We offered “propose war” button for several ticks as well an an arranged war start that BB has rejected, both of those would have solved the potential issues you laid out

[protector]

We offered “propose war” button for several ticks as well an an arranged war start that BB has rejected, both of those would have solved the potential issues you laid out

Didn't you propose war <15mins pre-tick with your entire kd paying wages? #failflex

[Proteus]

Didn't you propose war <15mins pre-tick with your entire kd paying wages? #failflex

No we proposed it at start of each tick for multiple ticks. Both kds had full wages and gc stocks at that time. There was one tick where war was offered later on but that was due to steward running errands.

We also offered you an arranged war via diplo. You are as much to blame for the stagnation as we are. The option to war without the need to do an opening wave was offered but you chose not to take it, wanting extra advantages in what would be an even war.

Also is your stance that 4 pt on meter with 1 hit per day a hostile!

[Meep]

I expect that since BB apparently didn't consider it a dealbreak when Barco noticed into our similar hostile last age, they won't mind when Ronins notice them into this one either?

[Heathen]

I expect that since BB apparently didn't consider it a dealbreak when Barco noticed into our similar hostile last age, they won't mind when Ronins notice them into this one either?

i think some people view it as non hostile situation. Just get the notices in!

[protector]

No we proposed it at start of each tick for multiple ticks. Both kds had full wages and gc stocks at that time. There was one tick where war was offered later on but that was due to steward running errands.

We also offered you an arranged war via diplo. You are as much to blame for the stagnation as we are. The option to war without the need to do an opening wave was offered but you chose not to take it, wanting extra advantages in what would be an even war.

Also is your stance that 4 pt on meter with 1 hit per day a hostile!

I heard different story where half of BBs armies were unpaid while you still had like 3x their gc (I did an intel run on both around those button offerings).
Quite frankly, if you can pay wages when half your opponent doesn't, not hitting a button is just silly. You have better TM power.

How am I responsible? I don't play in BB nor am I involved in anything. I play a prov in Mansoors ghetto. And before you start, yes we robbed Emeriti, but we also robbed BB, WSK, Ronin and Sparta. The only one we didn't rob (yet) is coss!

I don't know why BB doesn't give a button or why Emeriti doesn't, but I'm pretty sure it will suck for to give up a button at this point.

[Proteus]

I heard different story where half of BBs armies were unpaid while you still had like 3x their gc (I did an intel run on both around those button offerings).
Quite frankly, if you can pay wages when half your opponent doesn't, not hitting a button is just silly. You have better TM power.

How am I responsible? I don't play in BB nor am I involved in anything. I play a prov in Mansoors ghetto. And before you start, yes we robbed Emeriti, but we also robbed BB, WSK, Ronin and Sparta. The only one we didn't rob (yet) is coss!

I don't know why BB doesn't give a button or why Emeriti doesn't, but I'm pretty sure it will suck for to give up a button at this point.

No one said you are responsible. You = BB =/= prot. I don’t keep up with who plays where but given you are making so many posts on BB one can assume you play there. Not a big deal and doesn’t matter though.

The second part of your post: yes giving button would give someone a disadvantage however a proposal to just go to war without waving was offered but BB rejected it and came back saying they would rather hit 1x per day for the next week or so. BB was offered war without either side having to give button but for whatever reason they didn’t want to do that and only seemed to want a war where they get a big starting advantage by being handed button.

Personally I’m ok with this outcome and seems like BB is too as there is no QQ really. One has to discount Sheister posts as he is the mouth of the forums and constantly QQing :p

[flogger]

No one said you are responsible. You = BB =/= prot. I don’t keep up with who plays where but given you are making so many posts on BB one can assume you play there. Not a big deal and doesn’t matter though.

The second part of your post: yes giving button would give someone a disadvantage however a proposal to just go to war without waving was offered but BB rejected it and came back saying they would rather hit 1x per day for the next week or so. BB was offered war without either side having to give button but for whatever reason they didn’t want to do that and only seemed to want a war where they get a big starting advantage by being handed button.

Personally I’m ok with this outcome and seems like BB is too as there is no QQ really. One has to discount Sheister posts as he is the mouth of the forums and constantly QQing :p

I posted when I Saw it "why don't you just accept" then they were all like "was a trap at end of each tick, we hadn't paid wages"

Why the heck the two of you haven't picked a date to pay wages and propose again in 5 days is beyond me. #noobdiplo

[astron]

Why are all the outsiders QQing when the parties involved aren't ?

for reference;

Personally I’m ok with this outcome and seems like BB is too as there is no QQ really.

oh and...

If you think I'd let you slack until EoA you underestimate me ;)

So bart, what's up with getting a huge shell prov to hit me everyday for 1k acres a day and hitting emeriti for min 100a gains on the pretence of "fairness" ? might as well just DB and wave me with your entire KD ? you know im still gonna count this on you regardless right ?

[Band of Horses]

I heard different story where half of BBs armies were unpaid while you still had like 3x their gc (I did an intel run on both around those button offerings).
Quite frankly, if you can pay wages when half your opponent doesn't, not hitting a button is just silly. You have better TM power.

How am I responsible? I don't play in BB nor am I involved in anything. I play a prov in Mansoors ghetto. And before you start, yes we robbed Emeriti, but we also robbed BB, WSK, Ronin and Sparta. The only one we didn't rob (yet) is coss!

I don't know why BB doesn't give a button or why Emeriti doesn't, but I'm pretty sure it will suck for to give up a button at this point.

You don't want to rob us. Coss has a history of dealing with that, and we'll revolt against Meep if need be.

[JoRoSaR]

Perhaps do a podcast on this war? Get hawk (BB one) to join in too so we can get to mechanics discussions in next age?

An interesting idea. Honestly though, wen it comes down to splitting hairs to gain the last little bit of advantage amongst top of chart wars, how relevant will the discussion be for the rest of the server? Avoiding giving button for 48h+ must surely only be applicable to a tiny % of wars outside the top 20. I want to avoid making AOTS a "here's where the top is going" thing if possible. It should be broader than that.

No one said you are responsible. You = BB =/= prot. I don’t keep up with who plays where but given you are making so many posts on BB one can assume you play there. Not a big deal and doesn’t matter though.

flogger is not playing in BB nor is he strat/simming for us this age.

The second part of your post: yes giving button would give someone a disadvantage however a proposal to just go to war without waving was offered but BB rejected it and came back saying they would rather hit 1x per day for the next week or so. BB was offered war without either side having to give button but for whatever reason they didn’t want to do that and only seemed to want a war where they get a big starting advantage by being handed button.

See my previous post. Your assumption of what the situation was like when the war offers were extended is simply wrong. Once you consider that, subsequent actions make sense.

Personally I’m ok with this outcome and seems like BB is too as there is no QQ really. One has to discount Sheister posts as he is the mouth of the forums and constantly QQing :p

I agree. BB were correct to wait, Emeriti understandably don't want to give a button now. There is no QQ here from anyone. :)

[protector]

You don't want to rob us. Coss has a history of dealing with that, and we'll revolt against Meep if need be.

I wanna rob coss, see if he can kill me! :-p

[MyNameIsMatija]

I heard different story where half of BBs armies were unpaid while you still had like 3x their gc (I did an intel run on both around those button offerings).
Quite frankly, if you can pay wages when half your opponent doesn't, not hitting a button is just silly. You have better TM power.

How am I responsible? I don't play in BB nor am I involved in anything. I play a prov in Mansoors ghetto. And before you start, yes we robbed Emeriti, but we also robbed BB, WSK, Ronin and Sparta. The only one we didn't rob (yet) is coss!

I don't know why BB doesn't give a button or why Emeriti doesn't, but I'm pretty sure it will suck for to give up a button at this point.

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[JoRoSaR]

No we proposed it at start of each tick for multiple ticks. Both kds had full wages and gc stocks at that time.

Given this changes nothing now, I don't think leadership would mind my chipping in here:

The second sentence quoted above is false.