Was bour the guy who was part of the "A-war" behind the 300+ page forum war like 8 ages back?
"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
Perhaps not to the same extent we are seeing now but it's more of a "they always treated us poorly so now is our chance to stick it to them". Hopefully this over the top action this age cools things off for the future.
For the record, I don't really include your KD in this broad statement as I have personally never had a problem with Emeriti or any of your other KDs, aside from when you got our monarch deleted years ago...
EDIT: Yes we wanted to leave it open, but we didn't turn it down, we asked to postpone the discussion, which we never received an answer for. Like we told Mike in the negotiations, if RoO had answered : "we would prefer to settle it now", the answer would have been probably yes.
Post the logs, I remember perfectly the discussion you, asf and I had since themango was on a plane and hector was mainly a spectator.
Last edited by Bourreau; 28-10-2017 at 19:54.
Like... who cares. Nothing ever gets done cause the threads are derailed with past conflicts. Move past them already...
Full logs.
No edit no nothing just pure info, take it or leave it.
https://pastebin.com/XLK8mhnd
To clear this up, early age, MEGA hit RoO and then a term cf was made to something like YR7. Around the end of YR2, RoO ingame asked MEGA to extend the CF to EOA. MEGA responded with something like "It's not even YR3, can we wait until a bit closer to the cf term and talk then?" There was no reply from RoO to this.
One player in MEGA was hopeful for the oppertunity to have a fair war vs a similar kingdom later in the age. Others including myself wanted to avoid drama and were in favor of just EOA Cf'ing RoO. The internal compromise in MEGA was to ask RoO if it was ok to talk more about it later. MEGA figured if they said "no, it's not ok we need EOA now", MEGA could have just worked out an EOA with them, but there was no reply from RoO and so MEGA figured they could just talk again a couple weeks before the current cf was up.
RoO, understandably, took the ask to talk later as a refusal to EOA CF and began focusing all efforts on finding a way to destroy MEGA. A couple weeks before the current term cf was up, MEGA contacted RoO to offer EOA cf but also asked if a province non-compete type clause would be ok. RoO said it wasn't ok and then MEGA asked if a "no lame play" type clause would be ok. RoO said they needed more time to think and then a few days later started farming the land from Bart's kingdom.
RoO then informed MEGA that they were not interested in a CF and they and would use the land farmed from Bart to ensure they smashed MEGA instead. I got some support, mainly from Flogger, that organized "borrowing" of massive amounts of cow land right before a conflict was "lame" play. It probably helped me to get his support that it was Bart and Mango involved in the scheme.
I am not aware of what Binar said to Mike, but according to Mike, he also had concerns about the situation.
Eventually, RoO agreed to just accept EOA cf with MEGA and to return the land to Bart. Bart used the deal with RoO to his advantage to pool the returned land from multiple provinces onto the selected cows of his choosing and was able to use that along with a late age war to get his kingdom mate's province to #1 nw.
Edit: From Mike's logs, it looks like it was a YR8 (not YR7) term cf and asking if it was ok to talk again closer to the end was in late YR3 (not late YR2.) Overall the events still match.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 28-10-2017 at 20:20.
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