Age 74 Final Changes Discussion

[drakon]

Yeah and a bocan/rogue can shread 30-50% of the dryads total troops (full sth and and including alot of failing) till its army returns...

[Conclave]

'-25% Defensive Losses' on Paladin

Is this troop losses, or would this apply to land/resources/scientists/massacres??

[Pillz]

'-25% Defensive Losses' on Paladin

Is this troop losses, or would this apply to land/resources/scientists/massacres??

Troops

[Deathlyric]

Yeah and a bocan/rogue can shread 30-50% of the dryads total troops (full sth and and including alot of failing) till its army returns...

Hard to do that when 4x Massacres takes the Bocan out ;) And most of the Dryads can 2x the Bocan.

[faegan]

Hard to do that when 4x Massacres takes the Bocan out ;) And most of the Dryads can 2x the Bocan.

People tend to forget that it's quite logical that at even-acres, an attacker will be able to break a T/M.

[faegan]

We have had 3-5 attackers as our biggest provinces for 5-6 ages with an record of over 30+ win and 2 lost wars only.
So i do not agree that you keep TMs biggest in the kd.

NW diff yeah, but with Massacres so what but to prove my point:

Bocan at 1700 acres with 17 EPA + WT + Forts = 202300 + 2125 * forts of 25% = 253406 Defense + protection = 278746,6 Defense.
Dryad at 1000 acres 253 700 Offense and Honor + Generals isn't added.

Ritual:
Onslaught - +10% OME, will give the Dryad = 25370 more offense
Barrier - +10% DME, will give the Bocan = 27874,6 more defense

Now you can break an Bocan 700 acres less.
Hope i answered your question.

You forget that with this silly comparisson your Dryad will be 4x by other attackers.

[Deathlyric]

People tend to forget that it's quite logical that at even-acres, an attacker will be able to break a T/M.

Hmm, well this attacker is 700 acres lower and can break the Bocan, not even-acres :)

You forget that with this silly comparisson your Dryad will be 4x by other attackers.

Is 13 EPA to high? haha,

28 PPA:

13 EPA
1,5 WPA
2,5 TPA
7 DPA
4 PPA

Now i guess you have more then 28 PPA right now. If not u've not done to well this age my friend.
We normally do 6,5-7,5 DPA max and our record is over 30+ wins with only 2 lost wars.
So getting 13 EPA isn't hard, not hard either to get higher WPA or TPA since this is only 28 PPA.

My DE have 34 PPA right now and i had 39,7 PPA when i was Prince.

[JeffT]

The original final changes post had missed one change -- night strike damage has been reduced by roughly 20%.

@conclave troops
@vratz correct, paladin will be self only for casting unless faery. We'll evaluate utilization this age and make changes next age if necessary.
@Bo To You'll be able to see the incremental numbers when the age change rolls over; the caps are unchanged from this age so you can still hit the same number, it just requires more investment.
@Verminator correct, the only 'penalty' rituals have currently is the mirrored -gains on resilient (typo fixed). -20% and 10% less means the same thing (though one is defense only and one is all)

I think that's all the major questions so far.

[Palem]

The original final changes post had missed one change -- night strike damage has been reduced by roughly 20%.

Lame

[Bo To]

@Bo To You'll be able to see the incremental numbers when the age change rolls over; the caps are unchanged from this age so you can still hit the same number, it just requires more investment.

Don't you think hybrids/mystics will be much harder to play when they have to protect themselves against both attackers and rogues at the same time. The difference between the investment to get max TD effect and max WT effect is too big on the top of the fact magic requires runes...

At the moment getting max TD effect as rogue at 120% BE you need 18% TDs compared with 30% land for max WT effect at 120% BE. And you want to increase that difference...

[Swagger]

Mystic is different in the mobile version. Can you confirm which is correct, thanks

[Child]

[b]I think that's all the major questions so far.

Is mystic +20% or +25% spell damage?
You have two different numbers in the final changes.

[JeffT]

Is mystic +20% or +25% spell damage?
You have two different numbers in the final changes.

Dave blames his mousepad for this.

It's +25%, fixed in changes.

[Avenger]

Faeries/DEs have no CS with nerfed WTs vs. bocans with +30% damage and +1/2 stealth... have fun mages.

[Sunrunner]

It's +25%, fixed in changes.

Does +spell damage also apply to damage done by MS or only instant spells?

Also what will be the new age status of universities? Base and max? A change was supposed to be implemented this age and wasn't.