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    Most and least valuable crowns

    So, to cause some forum drama: what in your minds (making the bold statement that not all crowns are equal) have been the most and least valuable crowns on the shelf to date?

    Many to choose from! Bio b2b2b2b2 warring crown, SWEA trickery crown (highly valuable, or not at all valuable!?), the peaceful Playboys dice crown (standing Octo fav?), Sanc honor whoring for nw crown, Spartas deleted crown, WarCrys everyone is looking at something else crown, Ronins warring friends and intentional farmouts crown...

    So many interesting crowns, discuss!

    Edit: Anticipating many wall-o-texts, so don't disappoint me please!

    Edit 2: Playboys dice crown ofc. Not pansies :)
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    Playboys dice age crown i think. As in most impressive, SWEA was pretty impressive as how Mansoor and JustinSane managed to navigate the top and take a bunch of noob Swedes to the crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Playboys dice age crown i think. As in most impressive, SWEA was pretty impressive as how Mansoor and JustinSane managed to navigate the top and take a bunch of noob Swedes to the crown.
    Mansour have almost zero credits for SWEA crown. First Pew Pew offered to farm out to BB so if they accepted deal SWEA wont have won for example. Here is so many other events not in control from Mansor, pure our intra alliance problems resulted to how age end. SWEA/Mansor just was lucky being only available KD for Pew Pew to farm out.

    So far i have think about events from this age and my biggest Utopia mistake was being ally with Simians/Anri but its take me much time till i understand all process so clear. First when age started Anri asked AMA/BB for his CFs with CR so he intentional set his CF with CR to expire first. He planed to farm CR and win age. We all know how this war and...folow with BB instant extend his CF and octo friendly farming so CR got almost second cow for free and age already was almost over. So i refused to CF them and take challenge to war CR and beat them. After it CR/BB had drama and its result CR give up age and gave free acres to anyone exclude AMA/BB. Simians got for free around 31k acres, they become big and again Anri start dream for win age. No one from us imagined his ambitions. So he asked me again about our CFs with SWEA and told he don't have CF so what deal to do. I advices him to make CF deal with 72h notice so if he need help we will able to help having 72h notice too. He told me OK and after it set his deal for 60h so he can be first again to farm SWEA before AMA. Its how begin all drama. When SWEA send notice Simians i got call 4am. I came in irc and after talk in alliance channel WE decide to send SWEA notice and Anri promised he WONT WAR. Petrified was mad to SWEA so he told Pew Pew will train up and wave SWEA too. We all trained up and prepare. I told Anri we will wave 3h later after notice because out KD is main from Europeans and i cant set wave 4am. So wen we came up Simians declare war...its how and when all begin. Till this moment me and Petrified was in very good relations chat every day and he really hated SWEA/Mansor. So if Simians didn't mess it here wont be all next events resulted me and Petrified break our relations and follow with farm out.

    In short SWEA had no control over any events from begin till almost end. Not to mention farm war was not enough for win age but you deal broke AMA too. So compare to Jerks/Ronin, SWEA crowns is much less valuable. Most valuable what did Mansor was his EOA post in forum. Its was really funy for read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elit View Post
    Mansour have almost zero credits for SWEA crown. First Pew Pew offered to farm out to BB so if they accepted deal SWEA wont have won for example. Here is so many other events not in control from Mansor, pure our intra alliance problems resulted to how age end. SWEA/Mansor just was lucky being only available KD for Pew Pew to farm out.

    So far i have think about events from this age and my biggest Utopia mistake was being ally with Simians/Anri but its take me much time till i understand all process so clear. First when age started Anri asked AMA/BB for his CFs with CR so he intentional set his CF with CR to expire first. He planed to farm CR and win age. We all know how this war and...folow with BB instant extend his CF and octo friendly farming so CR got almost second cow for free and age already was almost over. So i refused to CF them and take challenge to war CR and beat them. After it CR/BB had drama and its result CR give up age and gave free acres to anyone exclude AMA/BB. Simians got for free around 31k acres, they become big and again Anri start dream for win age. No one from us imagined his ambitions. So he asked me again about our CFs with SWEA and told he don't have CF so what deal to do. I advices him to make CF deal with 72h notice so if he need help we will able to help having 72h notice too. He told me OK and after it set his deal for 60h so he can be first again to farm SWEA before AMA. Its how begin all drama. When SWEA send notice Simians i got call 4am. I came in irc and after talk in alliance channel WE decide to send SWEA notice and Anri promised he WONT WAR. Petrified was mad to SWEA so he told Pew Pew will train up and wave SWEA too. We all trained up and prepare. I told Anri we will wave 3h later after notice because out KD is main from Europeans and i cant set wave 4am. So wen we came up Simians declare war...its how and when all begin. Till this moment me and Petrified was in very good relations chat every day and he really hated SWEA/Mansor. So if Simians didn't mess it here wont be all next events resulted me and Petrified break our relations and follow with farm out.

    In short SWEA had no control over any events from begin till almost end. Not to mention farm war was not enough for win age but you deal broke AMA too. So compare to Jerks/Ronin, SWEA crowns is much less valuable. Most valuable what did Mansor was his EOA post in forum. Its was really funy for read.
    Yea, all of you bunch of cowards that wanted to gangbang us over a bull**** reason. :) Cant beat have to gangbang them, good thing that your alliances plans failed. :) Lets pray to god that you somehow manage to stop bringing up old **** again. Also i didnt play in Dreams i just idled in you priv until you kicked me cause you accused me of leaking and all along it was clarey ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Yea, all of you bunch of cowards that wanted to gangbang us over a bull**** reason. :) Cant beat have to gangbang them, good thing that your alliances plans failed. :) Lets pray to god that you somehow manage to stop bringing up old **** again.
    If we wanted to GB you we will have done it. Petrified was mad on SWEA and you cant deny your kingdom hit Stripers in his war with Pew Pew and this decrease Pew Pew gains. You never sorted this problem so Petrifed wanted to pay you visit same way. You cant really blame him...special when he donate you crown :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elit View Post
    If we wanted to GB you we will have done it. Petrified was mad on SWEA and you cant deny your kingdom hit Stripers in his war with Pew Pew and this decrease Pew Pew gains. You never sorted this problem so Petrifed wanted to pay you visit same way. You cant really blame him...special when he donate you crown :P
    You and Petrified wanted to hit us cause Simians would hit Strippers into war and as we promised that we would wave Simians if that happend either way you both would have jumped in and claimed it was "double hostile". The only reasonable person in your alliance then was BB and protje that didnt want anything to do with it. So dunno, if you approve of that kind of lame play you are no better than anyone else.

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    LoL y'all wake up every day salty and bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrim View Post
    LoL y'all wake up every day salty and bitter.
    This is why we cant have good things here, always some noob that has to come and ruin it.

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    A crown is a crown. Whether achieved by abusing (new) mechanics, bullying, chitplaying, farming idiots or having the competition gangbanged; all crowns are equally useless and unimpressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhm hoi View Post
    A crown is a crown. Whether achieved by abusing (new) mechanics, bullying, chitplaying, farming idiots or having the competition gangbanged; all crowns are equally useless and unimpressive.
    Thats why you brag about your crown in your signature, cause you want to show useless and unimpressive you are? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Thats why you brag about your crown in your signature, cause you want to show useless and unimpressive you are? :)
    It fits well with my other utopian achievements; whining about faeries not being the right answer to "which utopian race can fly?" and a challenge that had 1 challenger ever.
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    It's not the crowns fault; this is why I see crowns as equal.

    Kingdoms, alliances, individual contributors are more the measure of accomplishment from a subjective perspective. The respect I have for AMA is highest among top kingdoms. To be an adult in a top kingdom in a position of strength and take a beating from AMA must've been a confusing experience.

    The SWEA crown followed by Jerks are the crowns that prove the goal is not the kingdom.
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    I'd have to say that the Playboy dice crown is the most valuable, at least since age 30. They won it at a time the top was competitive, as part of a b2b, while breaking a record that afaik still stands by playing mechanics to perfection.

    Least valuable crowns ever would be a three way tie between Age 42 RoCry, the Jerks crown, and Age 72 BB crown. I can get behind the idea HoH earned their crowns by being Absalom's *****, or that Ronins did, but those 3 crowns were wholly undeserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillz View Post
    I'd have to say that the Playboy dice crown is the most valuable, at least since age 30. They won it at a time the top was competitive, as part of a b2b, while breaking a record that afaik still stands by playing mechanics to perfection.

    Least valuable crowns ever would be a three way tie between Age 42 RoCry, the Jerks crown, and Age 72 BB crown. I can get behind the idea HoH earned their crowns by being Absalom's *****, or that Ronins did, but those 3 crowns were wholly undeserved.
    Who was the right winner the age we won with Jerks?
    AMA or BB?

    BB did allow AMA to do massive LL close to EoA to give them the crown, they came very close
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCurious View Post
    Who was the right winner the age we won with Jerks?
    AMA or BB?

    BB did allow AMA to do massive LL close to EoA to give them the crown, they came very close
    Both BB and AMA deserved to win. AMA for win pure loss war vs CR and BB for win very hard war vs Sleepy. I explained this to Pendel and asked him to change WW bonus from land to honor so its wont resul another chart shape Similar to SWEA. His reply was how Jerks is not less good from BB/AMA and how BB asked another kingdom to hit us so we wont win age. I don't know if its true but i told him hits from some one was expected and we had deal long ago with CR for land we never take all age. So we have plan B and its why we did this LL to show Pendel he is wrong.

    About crown Jerks won, its all my fault so far. First for help Jerks (Pendel/you) how to build your kingdom/take you for ally with us and second MOST IMPORTANT for refuse to hit Jerks EOA how all rest top kingdoms offered me. 4-5 Kingdoms was ready all together to wave you and this way give crown to AMA. I didn't want to win like this. My punish to Jerks was drop my support. This was first and last age for Jerks in all his utopia history being "TOP" land kingdom. So you loss something valuable for gain crown like this.
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