Unban Binar

[DavidC]

Proteus, could you explain the relevance "clear fw" or "who are these ghettos" has to any (every) thread they're used in and how they contribute to the OP ?
It seems like your argument is based on maintaining the status quo of the existing environment while comments such as those imo don't promote a positive and constructive environment for new players that come in and attempt to have serious conversions.

[Proteus]

Proteus, could you explain the relevance "clear fw" or "who are these ghettos" has to any (every) thread they're used in and how they contribute to the OP ?
It seems like your argument is based on maintaining the status quo of the existing environment while comments such as those imo don't promote a positive and constructive environment for new players that come in and attempt to have serious conversions.

Thanks for asking, happy to.

First of all, how do you differentiate between what is spam and not spam, that is a rather slippery slope. Without writing some flawless master know-all algorithm, the determination will be made by imperfect human beings suspect to capricious whims. I personally do not trust anyone on these boards to make such a determination and would argue it’s too much power to be concentrated within a select few people.

I care about consistency and equal treatment. The quotes you referenced are typical openings at the start of every war thread that have been said for years on end. Based on my experience, I have never seen anyone complain and be offended by such things. I think it’s ironic and hypocritical to call such things spam and ban people for it when you allow other forms of hateful (as compared to the harmless spam) in this case exist.

The best example of hateful spam are the posts of Korp who has been the most notorious troll on these forums for years. He consistently attacks other users and derails threads. If you truly want to make the forums a better place and to not put off new users, you should put a stop to his trolling or ban him should he not comply.

Another issue I have is with mods getting involved with game politics and smack talking other players. Think of the unequal struggle in this instance, when someone who has the power to ban is allowed to provoke other users. You are always in a losing fight as you’ll get banned if you retort too much or payback will occur in the future. On countless occasions I have seen Palem talk smack to other users, tell them how they got outplayed, berate others and tell them they need to do a better job of adapting (perhaps not all of the new changes are good or were implemented as intended). Quite frankly, mods should have a neutral stance and ensure proper conduct on the forums vs doing Korp-life trolling and baiting other users.

You actually made a very good selection with Sassy Wolf who does not berate other players, tell people to adapt, or get involved in politics. You want mods like that, not like Palem.

I think mods should prevent trolling, personal attacks, and enforce the forum rules. They should not try to get involved in the politics, talk smack to users, or arbitrarily decide what constitutes spam. Imagine just losing a crown due to intentional arranges farm out or sh1tplay and Palem telling you “you got outplayed”, I’ve seen that happen too many times and that’s just unacceptable.

[Pestilence]

Proteus, could you explain the relevance "clear fw" or "who are these ghettos" has to any (every) thread they're used in and how they contribute to the OP ?
It seems like your argument is based on maintaining the status quo of the existing environment while comments such as those imo don't promote a positive and constructive environment for new players that come in and attempt to have serious conversions.

Are you serious? You have forum mods constantly spamming gifs and trolling people and you ban binar for saying something that is said in every war thread and makes most people chuckle.

[Chris121]

Proteus, could you explain the relevance "clear fw" or "who are these ghettos" has to any (every) thread they're used in and how they contribute to the OP ?
It seems like your argument is based on maintaining the status quo of the existing environment while comments such as those imo don't promote a positive and constructive environment for new players that come in and attempt to have serious conversions.

I get that it's been a running "joke" for a long time but I did find it odd that spam posts (and not just those) were allowed in pretty much every thread in UT. So I agree with the stricter moderation policy.

[Crunch]

Proteus, could you explain the relevance "clear fw" or "who are these ghettos" has to any (every) thread they're used in and how they contribute to the OP ?
It seems like your argument is based on maintaining the status quo of the existing environment while comments such as those imo don't promote a positive and constructive environment for new players that come in and attempt to have serious conversions.

it's very relevant as many if not all of the top kds left in the game are in fact ghettos compared to kds of old prior to age 25 for instance. looking at some of these wars one can legitimately question if it is a fake war? if you were involved in top play when it clearly was just that...
we all know why korp steel and palem don't get baned . I was unfortunate when creating a random prov once to land in one of their ghettos. one off age where bishop korp palem steel think ben an octo were there too. worst ghetto i ever random into. their forum to game ration is like 1000/1. but all became clear why they get preferential treatment in the forum. like most everything else it comes down to who you play with.

free bin!!! one of the few posters left worth reading...

[Palem]

we all know why korp steel and palem don't get baned . I was unfortunate when creating a random prov once to land in one of their ghettos. one off age where bishop korp palem steel think ben an octo were there too. worst ghetto i ever random into. their forum to game ration is like 1000/1. but all became clear why they get preferential treatment in the forum. like most everything else it comes down to who you play with.

Just to address this quickly, I'm pretty sure I banned pillz a couple times when I played there and Bishop has actively banned people he plays with. No one gets preferential treatment just because mods have played/currently play with people. Everyone is held to the same standard of posting.