Kidnap returns and ghost horses.

[Bananamancer2000]

Kidnap returns halved between ticks.

March 9th
****# <<kidnap | **********(:)>> 324|1600 sent (1.12)|3.13 (m.4.41) vs 1.04 (m.1.59)|rNW 1.26| total 8794 (0.04)
March 10th
****# <<kidnap | **********(:)>> 160|1600 sent (1.12)|3.13 (m.4.41) vs 1.04 (m.1.59)|rNW 1.26| total 8744 (0.02)

Relations War:
Fresh SoT before each time, Survey taken after the unexpected low return, no new WT were finished. Possibly a illuminate shadows was cast? But that should be a -20% not a -50%. He hadn't been kidnapped a lot, 1-2 each tick for a couple hours is all.


Horses:
****# <<steal war horses | *****(:)>> |3000 sent (2.1)|3.17 (m.4.46) vs 3.91 (m.4.03)|rNW 1.15| total 4761 (0)
**# <<steal war horses | ***** (:)>> |4000 sent (2.71)|4.13 (m.8.14) vs 3.91 (m.4.03)|rNW 1| total 4761 (0)
**# <<spy on military | ****** (:)>> |610 sent (0.41)|4.13 (m.8.14) vs 3.91 (m.4.03)|rNW 1
**# <<steal war horses | *****(:)>> FAIL (-48 thieves)|4000 sent (2.71)|4.13 (m.8.14) vs 3.91 (m.4.03)|rNW 1
**# <<steal war horses | *****(:)>> 1301|4000 sent (2.71)|4.13 (m.8.14) vs 3.91 (m.4.03)|rNW 1| total 4761 (0.27)

Relations War:
Armies were 100% all home before the second robbing. 2 separate people tried. First rob was pretty soon after armies in, and possibly missed the mark, 2nd rob that got 0 was for sure armies in. SoM to confirm, then it worked.

[Bananamancer2000]

Update, second time with the horse robbing issue. Exact same thing, low-no gains on robbing, SoM made it start to work.

[Pestilence]

Update, second time with the horse robbing issue. Exact same thing, low-no gains on robbing, SoM made it start to work.

I had a similar issue but we just assumed it was a stinger issue . It showed armies home in 19, 23, 24 and 26 minutes. We tries to rob horses at 20 and 25 minutes, both 0. Did a SoM on 27 minutes and showed all home then robbed horses.

[Shrinky]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actual issue. I've seen something similar happening earlier also but couldn't get the required screenshot proof as desired by Bishop as I didn't remember to check it out again in subsequent wars.

Thread for reference: http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...e-acres-in-SOT