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    Congrats to Emeriti

    Well played early age. Looks to me like the age is pretty much over given how you all are farming. Good job.

    Maybe next age we can compete better.

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    The problem with the mechanics as they are now is that in an even war, taking acres and winning are mutually exclusive. I believe this is because of the stacking kills bonuses, meaning you're basically either unbreakable or you're dead. Combined with the ease of ops meaning if you gain acres you will never have peasants. So the route to winning a war for certain is actually just to stack an untouchable amount of defense on a province with strong t/m power and let the other kingdom farm the rest of your provinces until they have to withdraw. And note I'm not just talking about Emeriti here - the dwarves in 4:15 have the same problem.

    Of course we debate the value/prestige of the war win itself, but outside of certain grudge matches where all that matters is the win (cough), nobody ever wants to lose acres either.

    I'm pretty sure orc can just always take half the other kingdom's acres and withdraw, every war. Unless they withdraw first of course. It's not how the game should be played, but if it's the best strategy for the current rules it's how we have to play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    Well played early age. Looks to me like the age is pretty much over given how you all are farming. Good job.

    Maybe next age we can compete better.

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    I'm still not sure they don't eventually have to WD, but they're way beyond the point where they WD in a position to destroy 4:15.

    Currently 82k vs. 111k, and it looks like emeriti has more room to gain?

    It's on to CQs now though which will make progress slow.

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    But Emeriti will be 111k with 19k in the pool if they WD, so I'm not sure they even need to go for a round 2?
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    Nah we'd be happy to ceasefire them afterwards whichever kd were to withdraw now. b2b in an early age is kinda lame anyway IMO.

    But I don't think they believe in ceasefires.

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    Put the most of them a few k acres ahead of everyone else, just means they are to big to have any targets after this which is good if you don't compete for crown since they are still ignoring people who don't compete and ask for cf's, and probably a lot of those who are competing as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post
    The problem with the mechanics as they are now is that in an even war, taking acres and winning are mutually exclusive. I believe this is because of the stacking kills bonuses, meaning you're basically either unbreakable or you're dead. Combined with the ease of ops meaning if you gain acres you will never have peasants. So the route to winning a war for certain is actually just to stack an untouchable amount of defense on a province with strong t/m power and let the other kingdom farm the rest of your provinces until they have to withdraw. And note I'm not just talking about Emeriti here - the dwarves in 4:15 have the same problem.

    Of course we debate the value/prestige of the war win itself, but outside of certain grudge matches where all that matters is the win (cough), nobody ever wants to lose acres either.

    I'm pretty sure orc can just always take half the other kingdom's acres and withdraw, every war. Unless they withdraw first of course. It's not how the game should be played, but if it's the best strategy for the current rules it's how we have to play it.
    From what I can see is that they are pretty effectively chaining down your orcs 1 by 1.

    As far as the stacking of kills bonus goes, its a double edged sword while attacking. whichever race casts bloodlust faces loss both ends as in loses offensive troops and even enemy casualties.
    For ease of ops, I still think it is a matter of setup rather than much of ops. Having a race which has higher birth rate or less number of TMS will not stop econ growth. But again this is a topic which is up for a big debate!
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    I'd be cautious in that chain environment if those orcs have enough offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post
    The problem with the mechanics as they are now is that in an even war, taking acres and winning are mutually exclusive. I believe this is because of the stacking kills bonuses, meaning you're basically either unbreakable or you're dead. Combined with the ease of ops meaning if you gain acres you will never have peasants. So the route to winning a war for certain is actually just to stack an untouchable amount of defense on a province with strong t/m power and let the other kingdom farm the rest of your provinces until they have to withdraw. And note I'm not just talking about Emeriti here - the dwarves in 4:15 have the same problem.

    Of course we debate the value/prestige of the war win itself, but outside of certain grudge matches where all that matters is the win (cough), nobody ever wants to lose acres either.

    I'm pretty sure orc can just always take half the other kingdom's acres and withdraw, every war. Unless they withdraw first of course. It's not how the game should be played, but if it's the best strategy for the current rules it's how we have to play it.
    It's been the best strategy to winning landcrown for 8 years. The only reason to run a thief mage is for the war win ego boost.

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    Wars auto-ending on 50% land and not just 50% NW, discuss.

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    congrats

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    Congrats for what?
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    April 16 of YR4 Emeriti Faces of Arnold (6:10) has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!

    Congrats Frost Trolls on the victory!

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