Ronin vs Frosties

[Allanon]

Nebu, why u now getting 3:16 to land drop you?

Guess they found the kd that said yes after all.

[maugrim]

Guess they found the kd that said yes after all.

But you said yes first?

And before you say "I already told you the truth.., wahh"

The truth is you hit into our hostile and took my acres, and that is all that matters.

[Allanon]

But you said yes first?

And before you say "I already told you the truth.., wahh"

The truth is you hit into our hostile and took my acres, and that is all that matters.

As I said to you before, based on what you told me we seem to be the only kingdom in the top they didn't approach to farm out to. Am I supposed to feel bad about responding to a deliberate attempt to farm out to our opponents outside of the hostile whilst trying to claim hostile protection? It just reinforces that I made the right call in attacking them before they could get the acres to one of our other opponents.

Why would they get away? you cant wave both kd after they are getting waved? And even other kingdom can join with the wave. Isn't it more satisfying to police something that actually happened than a double hearsay. After what you have done, was there war declared or any significant happen? Nothing, you just got the acres you desperately needed, congrats. Now other kingdoms are chipping in. Next age there will be no more hostiles. I would really enjoy watching people crying here next age getting hit from hostiles.. hmm I better start recruiting people to join the fsu hostile party...lol

Except we had ceasefire deals in place with most of our opponents that had notices attached to them, and unlike Ronins we don't dealbreak. When we make a deal, our word is iron-clad.

[lionell]

As I said to you before, based on what you told me we seem to be the only kingdom in the top they didn't approach to farm out to. Am I supposed to feel bad about responding to a deliberate attempt to farm out to our opponents outside of the hostile whilst trying to claim hostile protection? It just reinforces that I made the right call in attacking them before they could get the acres to one of our other opponents.



Except we had ceasefire deals in place with most of our opponents that had notices attached to them, and unlike Ronins we don't dealbreak. When we make a deal, our word is iron-clad.

so you're saying the kd who made the farm assuming it is eme (according to your camp) are cleared? even if clearly they hit into a double hostile and they are not warranted of a deal break? but you can double hostile someone who you heard making a farm out?

[sUpeRneBU]

Guess they found the kd that said yes after all.

You guys said yes too right? I mean we got land dropped by you and now Mansoor or whoever from FG is saying any province/kd who hit us were invited to do so. Like wtf?

[Blitz]

I could say the same thing about you and frosties. Fact is all of our armies were out. It's the condition of the kd that is important! In fact we didnt say anywhere you double hostiled us. You are only saying I am right....

So you needed to steal ... how much .. half already to be a bad person in real life ? It's bad enough to be there trying to crack the voult.
So to put in ingame ethics: the only thing that stoped you was the fact that we found out and waved you.

[loon]

Look at all these cockroaches coming out to attack ronins. Gj Fraddy girls, can't handle your own battle? Smh, go play low 50 kd if you can't handle the pressure.

[Blitz]

Fact is, I belive at this point Ronins only want to justify further.shady actions

[Strokeofgenuis]

Quiet yourselves, and listen to the heavens, the pounding in your chest is not that of your heart, but the rumble of footsteps of the approaching Mansoor, and along with him rides death. Again quiet yourselves and listen, as the trumpets ring out, so your time on this earth has come to a close!

And on the day when the trumpet shall be blown, then those who are in the heavens and those who are in the earth shall be terrified except such as Allah please, and all shall come to Him abased. (27:87)

[Chris121]

So Ronins are saying Allanon KD should wait for them to farm out before stepping in? Why?

If Allanon's KD are right in that Ronins was trying to arrange a farm out, why should they wait? Once it happens, the other KD already has a ton of free land and it's much harder to rectify.

[the great kN herself]

So Ronins are saying Allanon KD should wait for them to farm out before stepping in? Why?

If Allanon's KD are right in that Ronins was trying to arrange a farm out, why should they wait? Once it happens, the other KD already has a ton of free land and it's much harder to rectify.

Hey look! Someone gets it! My faith in these forums is restored!

[outburst]

So Ronins are saying Allanon KD should wait for them to farm out before stepping in? Why?

If Allanon's KD are right in that Ronins was trying to arrange a farm out, why should they wait? Once it happens, the other KD already has a ton of free land and it's much harder to rectify.

What if they are wrong?

[Chris121]

What if they are wrong?

Then when Allanon KD waved, Ronins would ask what is happening, Allanon KD would explain, Ronins would say "wtf no you are wrong", and if Allanon KD can't provide a reasonable level of proof then my view would be very different (for example, Ronins could quite reasonably demand their land back).

But in the actual scenario, Allanon's KD presumably isn't wrong as Ronins haven't even disputed it (which, in fairness, is a positive attribute).

[maugrim]

As I said to you before, based on what you told me we seem to be the only kingdom in the top they didn't approach to farm out to. Am I supposed to feel bad about responding to a deliberate attempt to farm out to our opponents outside of the hostile whilst trying to claim hostile protection? It just reinforces that I made the right call in attacking them before they could get the acres to one of our other opponents.



Except we had ceasefire deals in place with most of our opponents that had notices attached to them, and unlike Ronins we don't dealbreak. When we make a deal, our word is iron-clad.

Then when Allanon KD waved, Ronins would ask what is happening, Allanon KD would explain, Ronins would say "wtf no you are wrong", and if Allanon KD can't provide a reasonable level of proof then my view would be very different (for example, Ronins could quite reasonably demand their land back).

But in the actual scenario, Allanon's KD presumably isn't wrong as Ronins haven't even disputed it (which, in fairness, is a positive attribute).

How would they dispute it while they are in a hostile?

While Allanon claims he had some sort of right to protect his land chart interests (what a joke, I know), the fact of the matter is he did not. You do not get to act on presumptions and rumours. If anyone should have been concerned about Ronins farming out, it should have been the damn kingdom they are hostile with, Frost Giants. I'm genuinely surprised no one has actioned them already, but then again, it could all just be a big conspiracy to allow big bad loony toons #2 in the world WOWOWOWOWOWOOWW

[Chris121]

How would they dispute it while they are in a hostile?

They could dispute it in the forums and through dip (probably with much more public support than the current situation given that they would not have not done or tried to do anything wrong). If that didn't achieve the desired result, then it is true that they would probably want/have to wait until after hostile to do anything militarily themselves and/or seek help from others to right to wrong.