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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    yeh.... what are you talking about Palem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    I can't believe hipmunks managed to blow a 50% faery advantage
    They didn't. (So far)

    TFC however....
    Last edited by makeo; 30-05-2018 at 22:50.

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    I'd say dropping 14k acres and having your opponent surrender so they can pump and farm more acres off you is a much better indicator of "blowing it" than not getting a +1 next to your ww's.

    I was mostly joking but is there some aspect to this that I'm not seeing that people are baffled by what I said? I'm so confused lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    I'd say dropping 14k acres and having your opponent surrender so they can pump and farm more acres off you is a much better indicator of "blowing it" than not getting a +1 next to your ww's.

    I was mostly joking but is there some aspect to this that I'm not seeing that people are baffled by what I said? I'm so confused lol
    Personally, I was mainly going for the cheap joke.

    That said, Hipmunks opened with wave, and BB got double war wave in. BB took what they could.
    How do you propose BB opens to "farm" Hipmunks when the Hipmunks oppers are still intact?
    I suspect those BB Avians wouldn't be enough to open successfully and not get wrecked by Hipmunks then getting two top feed war waves in.
    Maybe there is and nubeo me can't see that, but I don't think Hipmunks are screwed.

    Be fun to see I guess.
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    I am willing to bet, properly pumped with an emerald dragon on you at the start of their wave and a second one funded to send when you start your wave that they can manage the opening problem. With the acres advantage, they may be able to pump enough gold to do something fun like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    I'd say dropping 14k acres and having your opponent surrender so they can pump and farm more acres off you is a much better indicator of "blowing it" than not getting a +1 next to your ww's.

    I was mostly joking but is there some aspect to this that I'm not seeing that people are baffled by what I said? I'm so confused lol
    It was really the best possible outcome unless BB pulled a 6:6 and imploded and farmed out.

    Hipmunks had less land/nw(?)/troops and were in a position where they were forced to be the aggressor in a meta that punishes aggressive kds hard. Waving into a resilient + high gs on a kd larger than you who now gets a double wave is hard to salvage. It's not like hipmunks were in the advantageous position at the start.

    If elf dspec wasn't so disproportionate to elite offense values things might be different.
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    If i recall correctly hipmunks had alooooooooot more money and troop count were about same cuz we explored and couls draft more, however us beeing untrained and unbuilt with low wpa and low tpa id hardly say hipmunks werent in the advantegeous spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bounceOS View Post
    If i recall correctly hipmunks had alooooooooot more money and troop count were about same cuz we explored and couls draft more, however us beeing untrained and unbuilt with low wpa and low tpa id hardly say hipmunks werent in the advantegeous spot.
    Now we're talking.

    Despite Tadpole telling me Hipmunks were drifting this age, thus rainbow, the fact remains players get competitive, thus win.

    I've been preaching this since I started into Utopia. You can play loose and rock some freaky play. Still think it's too tight for a screw off age, but everybody has their ideal gearing.
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    Correct me then, instead of being a dick about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounceOS View Post
    If i recall correctly hipmunks had alooooooooot more money and troop count were about same cuz we explored and couls draft more, however us beeing untrained and unbuilt with low wpa and low tpa id hardly say hipmunks werent in the advantegeous spot.
    Yep, hipmunks had more money, but that wasn't a huge deal when you can spam 8 def specs for change found between the couch cushions. You also had spec/build credits while hipmunks had to finance their rebuild with cash reserves.

    Hipmunks being forced to make the first move more than offset any econ advantage they had I'd wager, but I'm not in the kd so admittedly didn't stick my nose too deep into the numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swagger View Post
    Yep, hipmunks had more money, but that wasn't a huge deal when you can spam 8 def specs for change found between the couch cushions. You also had spec/build credits while hipmunks had to finance their rebuild with cash reserves.

    Hipmunks being forced to make the first move more than offset any econ advantage they had I'd wager, but I'm not in the kd so admittedly didn't stick my nose too deep into the numbers
    troop count was fairly similar, if i recall correctly, they had like much more gc and were fully trained/rebuilt for war with lots of leftovers.
    BB wasnt fully trained, nor built, elves were mostly semi built, same goes for rest of kd
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    One of the most interesting fights I've seen in a long time. I think the key for BB was to just ignore everything I said from the peanut gallery. Well fought by both, just no way to beat BB's size advantage at the end.

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    April 19 of YR6 Hipmunks (3:3) has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!

    WAR ONLY

    ** Kingdom news report **
    For the time from January 22 of YR6 till April 19 of YR6 - 70 hours
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    ** Summary **
    Total attacks made: 630 (125,162 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 529 (118,232 acres)
    -- Ambush: 28 (5,950 acres)
    -- Conquest: 5 (980 acres)
    -- Massacre: 61 (372,662 population)
    -- Failed: 7 (1.1% failure)
    -- Uniques: 190
    Total attacks suffered: 420 (109,630 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 379 (106,574 acres)
    -- Ambush: 14 (3,056 acres)
    -- Massacre: 6 (42,109 population)
    -- Failed: 21 (5% failure)
    -- Uniques: 137

    ** The kingdom of 6:19 **
    Total land exchanged: +15,532 (630/420)
    +17,591 An unknown province (40/0)
    +3,733 best de ever (31/8)
    +3,594 who care (33/9)
    +3,399 i short of wizard (19/0)
    +2,744 Put raze right (18/0)
    +2,258 U go bed dream faster (17/0)
    +2,246 u dont cb (17/16)
    +1,881 rest army no back (31/9)
    +1,814 lei lo mo (28/8)
    +1,758 Army havent back (14/0)
    +1,472 Find me Replacement (16/1)
    +519 Yes Daddy (13/3)
    +435 why i no rev (28/28)
    +144 I better dont see u then (37/31)
    +71 lampa lah (35/32)
    -123 1x1x1x1x (9/1)
    -403 Rev Me Pls (21/10)
    -691 i got no tpa (13/3)
    -781 Who sit me (38/27)
    -1,169 theme no good (16/14)
    -2,713 i f u (31/42)
    -4,727 Your litter runes dont cast (31/36)
    -5,047 I eat damn lot chicken leg (34/39)
    -5,359 Theme is what (33/57)
    -7,114 i am using hp (27/46)


    ** The kingdom of 3:3 **
    Total land exchanged: -15,532 (420/630)
    +29,937 An unknown province (70/0)
    +4,066 Recruits nubs (33/10)
    +3,042 Learning advance Cantonese (28/7)
    +742 Pose Like Mufasa (16/10)
    +621 VacationOver (15/10)
    +253 Falling rate of profit (6/3)
    - and (0/5)
    -962 Say we will lose (7/17)
    -1,030 bigA (24/12)
    -1,120 Asphyxiation by Anaconda (19/16)
    -1,159 Cry because of Nightmares (1/12)
    -1,314 Lead After 48 Hours (7/18)
    -1,386 Remember the Cant (7/19)
    -1,415 Beg for wd (8/20)
    -2,589 Be a noob (7/23)
    -3,367 Orgrimmar (16/29)
    -3,604 Declare on Wrong KD (9/28)
    -3,822 Patiently Waiting (6/7)
    -4,125 Quad Bounce For Days (32/50)
    -4,734 Oops I sent dragon (24/81)
    -5,304 Iloilo Rehab Center (20/51)
    -5,529 Crimson (27/55)
    -6,080 Botyok (18/78)
    -6,653 TheFaeryGodmother (20/69)


    ** Uniques for 6:19 **
    Who sit me - 11
    I eat damn lot chicken leg - 11
    lampa lah - 10
    I better dont see u then - 10
    i f u - 10
    Your litter runes dont cast - 10
    i am using hp - 10
    Theme is what - 10
    best de ever - 10
    why i no rev - 10
    who care - 10
    rest army no back - 10
    lei lo mo - 9
    u dont cb - 7
    U go bed dream faster - 7
    Put raze right - 7
    Rev Me Pls - 7
    i short of wizard - 7
    Army havent back - 6
    Find me Replacement - 4
    1x1x1x1x - 4
    theme no good - 4
    i got no tpa - 3
    Yes Daddy - 3

    ** Uniques for 3:3 **
    Learning advance Cantonese - 11
    Recruits nubs - 10
    Quad Bounce For Days - 10
    Crimson - 9
    bigA - 9
    Pose Like Mufasa - 8
    Botyok - 7
    Asphyxiation by Anaconda - 7
    VacationOver - 7
    Oops I sent dragon - 6
    TheFaeryGodmother - 6
    Iloilo Rehab Center - 6
    Declare on Wrong KD - 5
    Remember the Cant - 5
    Say we will lose - 5
    Lead After 48 Hours - 5
    Beg for wd - 5
    Be a noob - 5
    Orgrimmar - 4
    Patiently Waiting - 3
    Falling rate of profit - 3
    Cry because of Nightmares - 1

    HOSTILE


    ** Kingdom news report **
    For the time from June 4 of YR5 till January 22 of YR6 - 67 hours
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    ** Summary **
    Total attacks made: 100 (14,255 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 50 (13,175 acres)
    -- Ambush: 8 (1,080 acres)
    -- Raze: 19 (3,959 acres)
    -- Failed: 23 (23% failure)
    -- Uniques: 21
    Total attacks suffered: 133 (29,187 acres)
    -- Traditional march: 124 (28,389 acres)
    -- Ambush: 3 (798 acres)
    -- Raze: 6 (1,564 acres)
    -- Uniques: 32

    ** The kingdom of 6:19 **
    Total land exchanged: -14,932 (100/133)
    +11,501 An unknown province (48/0)
    +248 why i no rev (4/2)
    +151 lampa lah (6/7)
    +31 I eat damn lot chicken leg (5/1)
    -150 i am using hp (4/2)
    -208 best de ever (3/6)
    -727 lei lo mo (4/4)
    -1,087 Find me Replacement (0/7)
    -1,136 who care (1/8)
    -1,194 Theme is what (3/7)
    -1,205 rest army no back (5/11)
    -1,295 Your litter runes dont cast (3/4)
    -1,319 Rev Me Pls (2/6)
    -1,455 I better dont see u then (5/7)
    -1,476 Who sit me (2/4)
    -1,649 i got no tpa (0/7)
    -1,788 1x1x1x1x (0/7)
    -1,880 Yes Daddy (1/8)
    -2,270 Who hv soldier (0/9)
    -2,655 i f u (3/13)
    -2,974 theme no good (1/13)


    ** The kingdom of 3:3 **
    Total land exchanged: +14,732 (132/100)
    +20,487 An unknown province (91/0)
    +1,117 bigA (9/3)
    +919 VacationOver (5/0)
    +903 Crimson (3/1)
    +519 Recruits nubs (3/0)
    +424 Patiently Waiting (1/0)
    +422 Learning advance Cantonese (2/1)
    +370 TheFaeryGodmother (2/1)
    +284 Botyok (2/0)
    +73 Asphyxiation by Anaconda (1/1)
    +54 Pose Like Mufasa (3/4)
    -171 Oops I sent dragon (1/5)
    -173 Falling rate of profit (1/4)
    -215 Declare on Wrong KD (0/10)
    -229 The misty Isle (0/1)
    -311 Quad Bounce For Days (2/4)
    -328 Orgrimmar (2/5)
    -640 Remember the Cant (0/8)
    -734 Iloilo Rehab Center (2/5)
    -754 Say we will lose (0/6)
    -1,057 raze farms instead of building (0/5)
    -1,089 Cry because of Nightmares (0/5)
    -1,345 Be a noob (0/6)
    -1,891 and (1/8)
    -2,010 Beg for wd (0/7)
    -2,288 Lead After 48 Hours (1/10)
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    I feel vindicated for the absurdity I was put through lol

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    Was an interesting fight indeed. Would have been even more interesting had Hipmunks not given BB two free war waves in the first fight. Without that huge misstake things would probably have looked very different going into the b2b. BB planned well from that onwards, perfect WD before bleeding acres, and a size adv that Hipmunks really couldn't fight back from. Well played BB!

    Furthermore, I consider that resilient stance must be destroyed. Or well, nerfed ;)
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