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    Dragons demand union wages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratOcastle View Post
    Dragons demand union wages?
    If anything...you are making the carrot that's dangling on the stick that's attached to the dragon's forehead bigger

    To distract it from all the commotion from other people's wars
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonJuan View Post
    Hmm if that's the case...I'd make PAYING for a dragon targeted to a KD at war more expensive instead.

    However I dont think that's how the current code work...since the dragon health only checks relations upon completion.

    Unless they can add an additional relation check upon START of the dragon that will multiply the cost.

    This will stimulate the idea that a dragon will need MORE resource/persuasion to go into an already hostile environment not related to their directhe interests.
    Well it calculates the cost when you start it so shouldn't be that hard to add another variable to the cost equation and make it check for relations.
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    When will you learn there is also a suggestion sub forum.

    I made a thread there about an idea that came because of this situation: http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...7#post15467787

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo To View Post
    When will you learn there is also a suggestion sub forum.

    I made a thread there about an idea that came because of this situation: http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...7#post15467787
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratOcastle View Post
    Glimi has less than 100 posts so the forum might be unfamiliar. Or, Glimi understands traffic and good post placement yields knowledge like you just bestowed. And, Glimi is a Texan so we give him a freebee.
    StratOcastle has more than 4 posts a day, every day for the past 6 years. That makes you a forum troll my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesom-o View Post
    StratOcastle has more than 4 posts a day, every day for the past 6 years. That makes you a forum troll my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glimi View Post
    The better question is why is this still a thing? CFs cancel dragons now. Why are outside kingdoms allowed to affect wars?
    I have to admit that a vague feeling of schaudenfreude came over me, on account of a distantly remembered comment where you argued that war wasn't designed to exclude all other kingdoms.

    You were wrong then, and you're right now. It is, assuming that the developers and players want* to enforce war being a 1-vs-1 relationship (naturally containing caveats and mechanisms to prevent abuse/fake wars), fair to hope that they'll prevent the "nerfing" of in-war dragons by some other kingdom simply sending an easily killed replacement dragon.
    I would highly recommend heading for the Bugs/Suggestions forum. Ruining a fair war with cheap dragons is rare, but it's something that can be done by anyone, and I think your recommendation to reduce/remove it is an excellent idea.

    *Please, nobody argue that people don't want this. Because everyone kingdom in war wants this! Or, at the least, they want it when they're the ones in war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calya View Post
    *Please, nobody argue that people don't want this. Because everyone kingdom in war wants this! Or, at the least, they want it when they're the ones in war.
    This seems a bit presumptuous. Some people can see and appreciate the bigger picture without being distracted by singular experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calya View Post
    It is, assuming that the developers and players want* to enforce war being a 1-vs-1 relationship
    Bold assumption. If that's what Devs and players wanted, wars would have been locked 1-vs-1 long ago. I for one am very much opposed to it. Utopia is a strategy game, not a mindless b2b warring game (even though we've slowly slided towards that path in recents ages). If it were, the periods between wars would be pointless. Diplomacy and intervention has always, and imo should always, be an integral part of the complex game that is utopia. Rigidity means regression.

    And yes, I've been at the other end of the stick. And no, I did not complain (or well, I complained a lot, but not over mechanics)
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    This doesn't happen often enough for it to be abuse-able. You need:

    - an ally that's willing to dump gc into a dragon
    - an ally who's also within dragon range
    - an ally who's not in hostile/war themselves


    Pretty circumstantial imo. Keep in mind that I have done it in the past, and it DID change the course of the war.

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