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Thread: Get rid of 1-x mechanics

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    Get rid of 1-x mechanics

    They should be replaced with 1/(1+x) mechanics. EG gs should not give -0-50% gains, but 0-100% gains reduction where 100% means the gains are mulitplied by 1/(1+1) aka 50%. Similarly for draft cost reduction, rax, TDs, ritual cost reduction, and so on.

    It gets frustrating having to post this trivial improvement once a year and see it ignored, year after year. There's no reason these mechanics should be imbalanced.

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    Why exactly?

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    I believe 1-x functions create lines with constant slope where 1/(1+x) functions create concave downward curves with decreasing slope.

    I'm also curious why? :)
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    I don't see any point to this.

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    It's just diminishing returns. That's a prevalent mechanic with a lot history to back it up. Since this is a "balance" suggestion, it sounds as though it currently applies to some buildings but not to others. Which is odd if true.
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    Because 15->20% gs is more benefit than 0->5%. That's the opposite of what diminishing returns is supposed to do.

    And it's just a matter of time until someone gets -105% draft cost or shielding damage.

    Do some basic math before asking why.

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    well, its your idea, i think the onus is on you to explain your suggestion, not on us to do your math.

    From what I can tell, your statement about GS is not true... I see that 5% being worth 2/3 the first 5%.

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    This is the purpose of DBE (thus Rattlehead's comment above), but also the language doesn't work.

    '100% gains reduction' does not read as 'reduce gains by 50%' to a layperson.

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    It looks like this change would generally make it so fewer buildings would be required to reach a given %effect than are currently required (significantly so up to the first 25% of whatever the max effect of that buildings is, then dropping off as you approach 100% of max effect). This might not be such a bad idea, considering the variety of buildings available to us in game is increasing and not decreasing.
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    "Reduce gains by 50%" is pretty straight forward to me (my gains are halved).
    "100% gains reduction" is not (gains are reduced by 100%... so I won't get anything?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmoheadbutt View Post
    "100% gains reduction" is not (gains are reduced by 100%... so I won't get anything?)
    It would still be 50% gains. The 100% would be multiplied by 1/(1+1), which equals 50%.

    This suggestion doesn't change the effectiveness of buildings, just the amount of buildings you have to build to reach that effectiveness.
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